I have charged and discharged the 2000mAh AA Sanyo Eneloop cells at a 2 Amp
rate and have come up with great results. Months ago I read a thread on RCG
stating that the eneloops could not take high discharge rates. I decided to
test it myself with a 4 cell pack I had been using on my full house all
digital servo sailplane.

I first charged the pack with my Sirius Charge "Limited" Charger hooked up
to data logger(The Limited Charges at 2 Amps). The charge curve looked
almost identical to a curve made by a NiCd battery indicating that internal
resistance is not as high as other NiMh's The charge cycle terminated
normally and the pack did not warm up dramatically. 

I then discharged the pack with a SuperTest Pro at a 2 Amp rate down to 4
volts (1 volt per cell) I still got over 1900 mA out of the pack.

I cycled this Eneloop pack repeatedly at 2 Amps and have continued to have
good results and will continue to use them in my Full house sailplanes. By
the way, I later went back to the RCG thread and found that poor test
results reported there were attributed to a loose fitting battery holder.

Thanks,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:35 PM
To: Jeff Steifel
Cc: rcse
Subject: Re: [RCSE] New sanyo batteries

On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:45:03PM -0400, Jeff Steifel wrote:

> Anyone using the new sanyo eneloop batteries?

Yes.  The claims about the self discharge rate being extremely slow
are completely true.  It's extremely nice -- you charge them up, and
they *stay charged* even weeks, months later, even in your hot car.

> The sanyo site says they have reduced internal resistence, but they
> don't give numbers.

This I'm not so sure about.  This person measured it --

   http://www.stefanv.com/electronics/sanyo_eneloop.html

and found an internal resistance of about 0.1 ohm/cell, which would be
about 4x the value I've read elsewhere for typical AA NiMH cells.  I
have not measured the internal resistances of any of these cells, so I
can't confirm or deny any of these figures.

In any event, the Eneloop batteries are great for my flashlights, the
digital camera I leave in my car, etc.  They'd be great for TXs as
well, especially one you don't charge every time you fly.  But if the
internal resistances that Stefan measured are accurate, they're not
going to be very good for RX packs.  They might work OK for a few
non-digital servos, but I wouldn't use them anywhere that might draw
more than an amp or so.

Oh, Stefan says this --

   This also accounts for the relatively high internal resistance
   reported by my battery analyzer. The analyzer measures the
   resistance either immediately, or when the battery first drops
   below 1.2V per cell. If it had waited until the cells "woke up", it
   would probably have seen better results.

So he doesn't seem to have much faith in his figure either :)

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