Thanks for explaining, Sherman. :) I had typed up a pretty nasty flame, but then I cut it and didn't send it.
My point to posting was to let you know what kind of reaction you caused with the electric guys. There's a couple things that are immutable about Sunday. 1: The regularity of the crowd that you were confronting. These guys (including the guy who told you not to take a picture of him) are all there pretty much whenever they can be. I've known them for months. Some for years. They show up down there more often than I do. They are "regulars" at the field. But nobody's disputing the fact that the glider guys were there first. And yes, we're there because of you. Obligatory humility. I know the history. I signed the petitions in 2004 & 2007. These guys all fly 12-24oz birds made mostly of styrofoam and perhaps a little balsa, with a few exceptions. The 4oz battery is the heaviest part. For the most part, talking about safety with that size of airplane, is like talking about safety with a 16oz frisbee, or a 24oz football. Plastic props break before they break skin, unless you *hold* your finger there like I did. :) Safety when you are talking about pounds and feet and gas, is a totally different story, and that is why the AMA safety rules were created. To keep people from getting injured by heavy birds. Park fliers think it is ridiculous to be subjected to safety rules which were written for a 5 plus pound bird. This is why your safety argument was met with such hostility by the majority of fliers. 2: The reaction of the crowd that you were confronting. Without exception, each and every single person that was there, either left to go to the other side of the road, or was upset with you and poked fun of you after you left. That reaction, inherently, over so many people, regardless of "electric or glider", speaks for itself. Taking pictures of activity at the park, with these guys' knowledge of your political agenda and Who You Are, "General Sherman", right after getting on them about flying over the parking lot, would certainly be interpreted as an invasion of privacy, and you don't even have to be paranoid. On sunny days, two or three people a day stop by and ask questions of me while I am flying, and I am very friendly to them. My friend from work was there on Sunday, he was actually interested in the gliders, till you came over. He *was* completely and totally unbiased. Way to teach 'em! :) My point was, and remains, that as long as you cause this kind of reaction in people, generically, whether soliciting their help or not (and are you soliciting my help as an "electric guy"? Or not, cause I sure am not a lawyer!), you will not succeed in your goal. That's the truth, no matter whose help you are soliciting. I'm trying to help you out and get you to chill out a little bit and perhaps change your attitude towards people you interact with. Interpersonal skill burnishing, call it. Perhaps these pointers into the "electric guys" behavior might be of help to you in figuring out why, when you speak at the council, you get results that you aren't expecting. Good luck. I know a lot is riding on this for you. -- _Mikey_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _Mikey_'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=204221 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=860486 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
