i believe its called atmoshperic inversion.
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From: Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: J.P. Morere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] River of lift.


> J.P.
> What you are saying has relevance in some cases
> and would manifest itself more as thermal activity.
> Wave air is created by moving air having to go
> over objects such as a mountain, cliff, tree line
> or a large building, just like on the slope.
> In this case, the air or wave can be very high in
> comparison to the object creating it.
> Sometimes unreasonably so.
> I have had guys standing right next to me for an
> hour watching me fly in the same relative place
>   all the time telling me that it must be a thermal,
> that no wave could be that high or strong.
>
> The wind on the ground might only be 10-15 knots
> but up at 1000-2500 ft it can be moving at far
> greater speeds, and usually is. My planes always
> come alive and dance around in all the lift at
> that altitude, sometimes scaring the crap out of
> me. No thermal I have ever been in has had the
> same effect on me or my plane.
> As for onshore/offshore wind.... this is true
> during the day as the land heats up and rises
> drawing in the cooler air from the water, but the
> opposite happens at night,  when the land cools
> down and the water is now warmer having heated up
> during the day and is now pulling the air out over
> the water.(offshore).
> BTW, Waves can be found at 18,000 ft. and above.
>
>
> Gordon, Waving goodbye.
>
>
>
>
> J.P. Morere wrote:
>
> > This may be related to the 'onshore/offshore' wind effects.  The water
> > is a temperature moderator, and is usually cooler than the shore. During
> > the day, the sun heats the shoreline nicely, and thus warms the air
> > above it, but the water temperature changes very little.  This warm
> > onshore air rises, and is replaced by the cooler offshore air - which is
> > subsequently warmed and the cycle continues, as long as there is heat
> > input like sunshine.  That 10-12 knot wind you feel is only at surface
> > level.  The air above could be going any which way!  Ever noteced that
> > wherever you are around a VERY large body of water the wind usually is
> > blowing onshore from over the water?
> >
> > Good sky;
> > J.P.
> >
> > Stephen Syrotiak wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Gordon,
> >> Thanks for your believable theory.  I've flown my Escape right off the
> >> beach in S. CT wondering all the time what the hell kept it up, at near
> >> spec height.  The plane was probably right over the water's edge and
> >> flying like it was in wave.  i.e. just hovering at windspeed.  I
> >> couldn't believe it was a wave at the time.  Surface WS were only 10-12
> >> kt.  This happened many times and I landed only because I got bored and
> >> needed an aerobatic fix.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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