Fred,

I'm not sure what you are referring to.
Can you be more specific?
G.

Fred Atkinson wrote:

> i believe its called atmoshperic inversion.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: J.P. Morere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] River of lift.
> 
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> 
>>J.P.
>>What you are saying has relevance in some cases
>>and would manifest itself more as thermal activity.
>>Wave air is created by moving air having to go
>>over objects such as a mountain, cliff, tree line
>>or a large building, just like on the slope.
>>In this case, the air or wave can be very high in
>>comparison to the object creating it.
>>Sometimes unreasonably so.
>>I have had guys standing right next to me for an
>>hour watching me fly in the same relative place
>>  all the time telling me that it must be a thermal,
>>that no wave could be that high or strong.
>>
>>The wind on the ground might only be 10-15 knots
>>but up at 1000-2500 ft it can be moving at far
>>greater speeds, and usually is. My planes always
>>come alive and dance around in all the lift at
>>that altitude, sometimes scaring the crap out of
>>me. No thermal I have ever been in has had the
>>same effect on me or my plane.
>>As for onshore/offshore wind.... this is true
>>during the day as the land heats up and rises
>>drawing in the cooler air from the water, but the
>>opposite happens at night,  when the land cools
>>down and the water is now warmer having heated up
>>during the day and is now pulling the air out over
>>the water.(offshore).
>>BTW, Waves can be found at 18,000 ft. and above.
>>
>>
>>Gordon, Waving goodbye.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>J.P. Morere wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This may be related to the 'onshore/offshore' wind effects.  The water
>>>is a temperature moderator, and is usually cooler than the shore. During
>>>the day, the sun heats the shoreline nicely, and thus warms the air
>>>above it, but the water temperature changes very little.  This warm
>>>onshore air rises, and is replaced by the cooler offshore air - which is
>>>subsequently warmed and the cycle continues, as long as there is heat
>>>input like sunshine.  That 10-12 knot wind you feel is only at surface
>>>level.  The air above could be going any which way!  Ever noteced that
>>>wherever you are around a VERY large body of water the wind usually is
>>>blowing onshore from over the water?
>>>
>>>Good sky;
>>>J.P.
>>>
>>>Stephen Syrotiak wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Gordon,
>>>>Thanks for your believable theory.  I've flown my Escape right off the
>>>>beach in S. CT wondering all the time what the hell kept it up, at near
>>>>spec height.  The plane was probably right over the water's edge and
>>>>flying like it was in wave.  i.e. just hovering at windspeed.  I
>>>>couldn't believe it was a wave at the time.  Surface WS were only 10-12
>>>>kt.  This happened many times and I landed only because I got bored and
>>>>needed an aerobatic fix.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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