Weeeeellll.... I own both, so i'll give you my take.
The Herring.... is made of EPS (standard polystyrene) has no spar is covered with packing tape (which easily sticks to styro) is very stiff naturally is slightly *less* durable than the EPP Noseeum can fold in half (so can the Noseeum, if you want) can be built with pushrod recessed for lowest drag (but with long-term maintenance issues, read below) can be ordered from http://www.flyingfoam.com if you give them all the information (which is readily available) or -- contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], he's started making the cores again, but has a long line from ANOTHER project called the Mini Speedwing has it's own gallery here -- http://phliteklub.org/gallery/herring The Noseeum.... is made of EPP (expanded polypropylene) has a CF spar has a tailboom/rudder made of CF/ is only covered on the LE (if you want) requires strapping tape because... EPP is not naturally as stiff is *more* durable than the herring. requires some rubber cement to get the tape to stick -- that's EPP for ya! can be ordered from http://www.aerofoam.com! has it's own gallery here -- http://phliteklub.org/gallery/noseeum03222002 Now, my own experiences, which should not weigh upon your buying decision :) I bought a Herring, built it, and it was really neat! The original all-internal servo mounting and pushrods were really cool and all, but that made servo-mounting and servo-remounting a pain because styro will come with the servo when you remove it. So, after i determined that the styro on the interior of the wings where it splits in half was too far gone, i cut out the 2.5 inches on the root of each halve, cutting the Red Herring down from 34" to the Mosquito Class size of 29.5". Unfortunately, I lost precious wing area due to this move, but i really couldn't do much else (but she's still a blast to fly!). Also, i top-mounted the servos like they are done on the Noseeum, so all i have to do is take of the tape, and out comes the servo with no styro. Anyway, she flies great, is very sturdy, and launches about 75' high. Also, when I fly it at work, everyone goes "ooh and ahh" and when i fly it around little league baseball, all the kids want to go watch, thus infuriating the coaches. Now, shortly after I bought the Herring, which I thought was the greatest thing since sliced toast, i decided to buy the Noseeum -- 'cause it looked great too! So, i got ahold of the Noseeum. The building was as easy, or easier than the Herring (no recessed anything here). It turned out great! However, apparently i hadn't used the strapping tape quite at well as i should have to make it as stiff as possible. So, back to the hobby table. Tape + glue, tape + glue. Still not quite as stiff. This caused unfortunate instability during launch, which at that speed is no good. However, when i wasn't tip-launching it, she flew magnificently, and due to the forgiving nature of EPP, she is quite the trooper! So, for the time being (and since i've been busy), I've concentrated on flying the Herring, but all this talk of Herring vs. Noseeum has got me going again, and i think the Noseeum has some very good promise. From my comparatively limited amount of Noseeum flying time (i've got about 10 hours on it, and 50-75 on the herring), i had found that the Noseeum is more receptive to lift, and glides rather well. I've got a sneaking suspicion that she's got more wing area than the Red Herring -- which is great! Now, if i could only overcome the launching thing, It would be great! Now, off of a bungee -- which Mark also sells at Aerofoam.com, this thing would rock out! Or even from an up-start, i think it would do great, especially since it had a flat bottom, which is good for bonding stuff! (even if it's a paper clip with some duct tape). Whew... well, there you have it.. doing my part to evangelize the two things that most sailplaners despise -- foamies and flying wings :) (just joshing!) --ben On Wednesday 12 June 2002 09:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was getting set to buy a Herring when they closed down, I'm interested in > one still, or maybe the N0-see-um. I'm a flying-wing fanatic who would like > to try DHLG flying on the flatlands of central Illinois, on a (low) budget. > I have built a couple wooden 2-meter kits, and electrics, and can generally > get them up, around, and back to me in the same number of pieces, but a > lack of practice opportunities means I'm rusty every time I go out. If I > didn't have to set up the hi-start, or charge batteries... so,I want a > small, cheap, flying wing HLG that I can keep ready to go on very short > notice, and hopefully, one that will hold up during my learning curve. I'm > an okay builder, but no expert at all on composites or the newer materials, > though I've read a lot about it. So, does the Herring or no-see-um fit my > profile? or am I more Wally-Wing material;-) > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
