On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Carlo Falciola <[email protected]> wrote: > I based my VM tests on these instructions: > > http://agnipulse.com/2009/07/boot-your-usb-drive-in-virtualbox/ > > with Strawberry you can let it plain boot, and it goes fine,( maybe it's > better you first boot a newly created stick the normal way for the first > time... ) > I think this feature of VB is not available on mac now... >
Interesting. This requires you predict what /dev/sdX device the USB will get. For a semi-permenantly attached USB hard drive or for someone who is used to this sort of thing, it seems pretty neat. Thanks. Dave > ciao carlo (F) > > > --- Mar 20/10/09, Dave Bauer <[email protected]> ha scritto: > >> Da: Dave Bauer <[email protected]> >> Oggetto: Re: [SoaS] [Marketing] installation fear, was Re: Governance & >> Trademark in the Wiki >> A: "Carlo Falciola" <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected], [email protected] >> Data: Martedì 20 ottobre 2009, 12:54 >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:48 AM, >> Carlo Falciola <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Sean, Martin, >> > Recently I started playing with VirtualBox in order to >> get a "standard" SOAS usb bootable key to boot into an >> "empty" VM in VirtualBox. >> > This is different from a livecd in sense you get >> persisten updates and your stik could always be booted in >> other systems... >> > VirtualBox supports, at least in Linux & Windows >> the feature to define virtual bootable disk that belongs to >> a USB stick. >> > >> > So now I've a generic VM that when started by VB look >> for an USB Bootable Stick attached to a running windows >> machine and start it >> > Till' now it works for me with Strawberry & the >> latest Soas2.iso. >> > >> > I actually followed instructions I found on the web >> (there shoud be a message to sugar-devel list about it) >> > >> > The solution is definitely not ready for primetime, >> and should be tested a lot, but right now is it possible >> to: >> > 1. Manually install VirtualBox >> > 2. Get the VirtualMachine (containing the "special >> Virtual Disk") >> > 3. Stich the Strawberry in the running host >> >> Can you describe this step in some more detail? >> Right now as I understand it, on Linux and Windows Hosts >> you can hit >> F12 (if you are very fast) to open the boot menu or also >> quickly open >> the USB menu at the bottom of the screen and activate the >> selected USB >> device. You can't boot from USB on OS X for some reason so >> I have >> created a boothelper VM which looks for a USB stick named >> Fedora. On >> OS X I have been able to automate this to umount the USB >> from the host >> OS, and attach it to the running VM so the use potentially >> just has to >> plug in the stick and make one click on an application >> icon. >> >> Dave >> >> > 4. start the VM >> > 5. Enjoy your Sugar Stick (with persistent storage in >> the stick, networks, (dunno about audio, but it should work >> either)! >> > >> > I think some of those steps could be simplyfied... >> > >> > Latest note : I'm not shure that a "Portable" >> VirtualBox it's doable because VB creates virtual net >> interface I'm not shure that ccould be done on the fly. >> > >> > Could this approach helps? >> > >> > ciao >> > >> > carlo (f) >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Douglas McClendon >> > <dmc.sugar at filteredperception.org> wrote: >> >> Sean DALY wrote: >> >> >> >>> You've mentioned how the website could be >> improved - the "fine print". >> >>> When you look at the Sugar on a Stick page, >> what do you think it could >> >>> express better to guide inexperienced users? >> The single biggest >> >>> barrier we face is installation fear - this is >> how Windows keeps its >> >>> marketshare (with help from proprietary file >> formats), and why >> >>> GNU/Linux desktops have so much difficulty >> breaking out. Sugar on a >> >>> Stick sidesteps the problem by not touching >> the hard disk, but does >> >>> indeed require system-specific BIOS fiddling. >> >> >> >> In response to this, and DancesWithCars autorun >> html point, I can see >> >> possible progress in this direction- >> >> >> >> a) autorun html. Simple to add technically. >> I'd opt for pure open >> >> source but possibly less compatable simple autorun >> technique, as opposed >> >> to using the various less-free and often closed >> source autorun helpers. >> >> >> >> b) the content of the html to be autoran- >> obviously the sky is the >> >> limit, and something marketing is particularly >> suited for. To the >> >> extent that technical information should be >> contained, there is the >> >> LiveDistro wikipedia page, which would be >> included, as well as a layer >> >> above it translated/shrunk into a quickstart >> version targeted at average >> >> parents/teachers. >> >> >> >> c) other low hanging fruit windows FOSS. Firefox >> seems worth it if >> >> you've got the space. But more importantly qemu, >> or whatever the best >> >> open source windows virtualization solution is >> (qemu/virtualbox/?). >> >> I.e. the webpage should include simple >> instructions for launching that >> >> virtualizaiton targeted at the CD/USB that >> contains it. >> >> >> > >> >>Virtualbox could allow a pretty good in-Windows >> experience. With >> >>seamless mode it runs in an OS window. We can >> automate the startup so >> >>a Sugar appliance starts up with one click. The >> trick is getting >> >>permission to bundle an installer with virtualbox >> and the sugar >> >>appliance. I think one would have to ask Sun for >> permission to do >> >>this. >> >> >> >>You could do this also with OS X and Linux although >> each needs a >> >>seperate installer. >> >> >> >>Dave >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Dave Bauer >> >>dave at solutiongrove.com >> >>http://www.solutiongrove.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SoaS mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave Bauer >> [email protected] >> http://www.solutiongrove.com >> > > > > -- Dave Bauer [email protected] http://www.solutiongrove.com _______________________________________________ SoaS mailing list [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
