Hi,

On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Steven Livingstone-Perez wrote:

But those notifications could also be rendered as a news stream the way we
render Atom or >RSS, or it could be a ticker tape, or a tray notification

Jean-Mark -
Excellent! This scenario is in fact what pushed me to look at XMPP in the
first place (I had been writing my own pubsub system at first due to
confusing commercial clauses in many of the XMPP servers I first looked at).

Do you (or anyone else out there) have pointers to applications that do this
kind of thing with XMPP?

The currently-defunct Twitter IM gateway used to send a pretty cool atom entry of each notification.

I couldn't find a URL describing a message. Its mentioned briefly here:

http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/web/jabber- pubsub

Best regards,


Regards,
Steven
http://livz.org

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Also sprach Steve Ivy [Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:20:23PM -0700] :

At which JID should I receive these notifications? I don't really want
"so and so would like to friend you" and "your friend is now a zombie
and ate your brain" messages coming to my iChat, adium, or gaim
window. And yet, I don't really want to maintain any more JIDs than I
need to.

That is what publish-subscribe is about : you only susbscribe to the
streams that you want to receive notification from.

And then not all messages need to be rendered as chat on the client
side. For now most XMPP clients are in fact chat clients - and the
current user experience of notifications through XMPP is therefore the
reception of a message from a "contact". But those notifications could
also be rendered as a news stream the way we render Atom or RSS, or it
could be a ticker tape, or a tray notification popup or whatever you
want to develop your client as...

In addition, there's the issue of message capture by different
clients. If I *am* logged in via a chat client to the same JID that my
DiSo-enabled site is using, will I lose messages if the real-time
client is available to receive it but my "social inbox" client has not
connected recently?

When server side history becomes widespread (probably through
implementations of XEP-0136) this problem will cease to exist just as
all my mail clients see the same messages on my IMAP server.



--
Pedro Melo
Blog: http://www.simplicidade.org/notes/
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