You will not get away from that by abolishing 
interest and trying to concoct some alternative 
method of financing.  You can get away from that by 
abolishing the system of free enterprise, as the 
Soviets did--and then you have another bag of worms.  
You thought you understood the old bag of worms 
whereas you didn't have the foggiest idea--just 
ideological delusion.  The new bag of worms you will 
not admit even exist.  At some point your "Soviet" 
utopia must inevitably melt down.

What Douglas was concerned about was the general fall 
of income relative to the costs of production 
(concomitant to the displacement of labor) creating 
the illusion that demand from consumers is falling, 
whereas the reality is that demand might actually be 
increasing in the real sense.  Sales fall or remain 
stagnant.  Producers and retailers cannot meet their 
costs of production and go out of business.

To fix that you don't abolish a fundamental principle 
of banking and free enterprise (unless you want to be 
nitwits like the Soviets were--one of the first 
things they did was to outlaw interest and profit 
which became firing squad offenses; they later had to 
backtrack in the "New Economic Plan").

You send out checks so that financial demand matches 
real supply.

It's as simple as that.


   ---original message---

I can follow you on this, and the next post, too, Bill.  But what 
happens in the case of default?  Or if the bank decides its 
customer is no longer 'credit-worthy'?  Lets suppose I borrow 
a sum of money, and the interest is based solely on time.  I have 
a slowdown in business, and my profit from which I pay the 
interest diminishes, or ceases all together.  Theoretically, as 
long as I was making the interest payment there would be no 
purpose in the bank wanting its principle back.  And in this 
instance, we'll assume they don't.  But if my paying that 
interest, the only expense other than property taxes, [and 
possibly fire-insurance], based solely on time, draws down my 
capital when there's insufficient coming in to replace it, pretty 
soon I'm not going to have enough dough to operate when 
things pick up.  Unless I go back to the bank for another loan, 
that is.  (Which, in the case of a small business, is highly 
unlikely to be granted.) Over time, particularly in a cyclical 
industry like ours, an indebted producer slowly finds he's more 
and more in hock to the bank.  And they can, (and do), 
increasingly have his fate in the palm of their hands.  With the 
result that purely a 'financial' result in the operation of the 
business has to be aimed for, regardless of anything else.  Now 
as I read Douglas, this was one of the things he was most 
concerned about.  How do we get away from that? 
 
Joe 





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