Thanks for forwarding this, Chick.  There are several 
things that are interesting about it.  This  
organization is marxist-anarchist.  They would 
eliminate government and money.  The anarchist side 
of their beliefs actually overlaps Douglas' theory.  
Unlike them, however, Douglas was realist enough to 
know that you cannot eliminate government and centers 
of power but you should strive to minimize them and 
decentralize them with checks and balances.  Schemes 
like a monetary authority with emphasis on the 
authority emanate from John Hargrave, not Douglas.  
Douglas would pay dividends directly to people.  
Others, like Hargrave, saw nothing wrong with 
allowing government to spend it into circulation 
which of course gives those in control of government 
supreme power.

Since they believe there is no need for money, they 
obviously haven't spent very much time thinking about 
it as is evident from the following, which is 
primitive as compared to even Marx's analysis:

***>In fact, there is no chronic shortage of 
purchasing power. Sufficient [purchasing power] to 
buy the product is generated as wages and profits in 
the course of production; slumps are not caused by an 
absolute shortage of purchasing power but arise when, 
because of falling profit prospects, capitalist firms 
choose not to spend all their profits on fully 
renewing or on expanding production. Nor can banks 
"create credit"; they are essentially only financial 
intermediaries, borrowing money at one rate of 
interest from people with cash to spare and lending 
this at a higher rate to those needing money to spend 
or invest, their profits coming from the difference 
between the two interest rates. <***

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Socialist Standard
Journal of the Socialist Party of Great Britain
September, 2003
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/sep03/

Major Douglas rides again

Adam Buick

In the course of our nearly one hundred years of 
socialist activity, one of the ideas that we have had 
to deal with from time to time has been currency 
crankism – the idea that economic and social problems 
are caused by some flaw in the monetary system and 
that what is required to put things right is not to 
get rid of the profit system that is capitalism but 
mere monetary reform (of one kind or another, 
depending on which particular school the currency 
crank belongs to).

Between the wars the most popular school of currency 
crankism in Britain was Social Credit, based on the 
ideas of Major Douglas (as he was known). His 
explanation for the slump – of poverty amidst 
potential plenty, of unmet needs alongside idle 
factories and widespread unemployment, of piles of 
unsold goods being destroyed – was simple, not to say 
simplistic: it was due to a lack of purchasing power, 
to people not having enough money to buy what they 
needed or to constitute a market worth catering for. 
The solution, too, was simplistic: distribute 
purchasing power free to people in the form of a 
"social dividend" paid by the government.

Douglas believed that banks could "create credit" by 
the mere stroke of a pen, but that they deliberately 
kept money scarce so as to be able to charge a higher 
rate of interest. Hence his solution that the banks 
should be taken over by the government and their 
supposed power to create credit exercised but in the 
general interest, as "social credit".

In fact, there is no chronic shortage of purchasing 
power. Sufficient [purchasing power] to buy the 
product is generated as wages and profits in the 
course of production; slumps are not caused by an 
absolute shortage of purchasing power but arise when, 
because of falling profit prospects, capitalist firms 
choose not to spend all their profits on fully 
renewing or on expanding production. Nor can banks 
"create credit"; they are essentially only financial 
intermediaries, borrowing money at one rate of 
interest from people with cash to spare and lending 
this at a higher rate to those needing money to spend 
or invest, their profits coming from the difference 
between the two interest rates.

This being the case, the main result of applying 
"social credit" would be roaring inflation. All the 
other problems of capitalism, including periodically 
re-occurring "poverty amidst plenty", would continue 
unabated. They will only end when the means of 
production are brought into common ownership and 
democratic control so that they can be oriented 
towards directly satisfying people's needs – when 
banks, money and all the rest of the buying and 
selling system will have become redundant.

Normally, lack-of-purchasing power currency crank 
theories flourish in times of slump. However, 
according to an article by Derek Wall, "Social 
Credit: The Ecosocialism of Fools", in the June issue 
of Capitalism, Nature, Socialism, the modern-day 
followers of Major Douglas are well ensconced in the 
Green Party:

"Brian Leslie, whose parents were members of the 
Social Credit Greenshirts during the 1930s, chairs 
the Green Party Economics Working Group. The 
newsletter, Sustainable Economics, is almost entirely 
concerned with social credit and Party economics 
speaker Molly Scott Cato advocates monetary reform . 
. . Frances Hutchinson, a former member of the Green 
Party left grouping, the Association of Socialist 
Greens, has revived the Douglas Social Credit 
Secretariat . . . Wilfred Price, a member of the 
Greenshirts in the 1930s, joined the Ecology Party 
(now the Green Party) in the early 1980s and 
powerfully spoke for social credit as a form of green 
politics."

Currency cranks find it easy to infiltrate the Green 
Party because of the tendency amongst its members and 
supporters to blame "big banks" and international 
financial institutions for ecological problems and 
the ravages of capitalist globalisation. The Green 
Party has, for instance, lined up alongside the 
Tories, the UKIP and other reactionaries in the 
"defend the pound" camp because it sees the euro as 
an international (in the sense of anti-national) 
currency.

Derek Wall's article concentrates on the political 
side of Social Credit rather than on its economic 
fallacies (though he recognises these), in particular 
on the anti-semitic position it took up between the 
wars. The title of his article is taken from August 
Bebel, a pre-WWI German Social Democrat, who once 
quipped that "anti-semitism is the socialism of the 
fool", by which he meant the anti-capitalism of the 
fool. And it is, of course, a short step between 
denouncing "global finance" for causing problems to 
blaming "international Jewish bankers" or some other 
supposed international conspiracy or cabal. It was a 
step that Douglas himself took. Wall quotes him as 
writing in Social Credit (1933):

"In a remarkable document which received some 
publicity some years ago, under the title of 'The 
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion', a 
Machiavellian scheme for the enslavement of the world 
was outlined. The authenticity of this document is a 
matter of little importance; what is interesting 
about it, is the fidelity with which the methods by 
which such enslavement might be brought about can be 
seen reflected in the facts of everyday experience."

Wall – a Green Party member who describes himself as 
an "eco-Marxist" – recognises that Social Credit 
doesn't have to be anti-semitic and that its 
supporters in the Green movement (with one exception) 
are not. His concern is to warn the Green Party and 
the anti-globalisation movement against embracing 
monetary reform as a quick-fix solution but also of 
the dangerous company they risk falling into if they 
continue down the road of blaming "global finance" 
for ruining "national" – and local – economies.
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Date:   Mon, 08 Sep 2003 07:15:43 -0600 
From:   Chick Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:   [SOCIAL CREDIT] Wants Critical Comment 
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

This message was sent to the Alberta Social Credit 
Party by someone who wants a response from the Social 
Credit perspective.  I thought it might be 
interesting to see what the list might have to say 
about it.

Chick

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From: Robert Stafford 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:57 AM
Subject: Critical comment

Hi!

Having recently visited your website, I am sure you 
will be interested to read a critical examination of 
social credit.   The essay in question, Major Douglas 
rides again, appears below and is taken from the 
September 2003 Socialist Standard.

Needless to say, any feedback would be much 
appreciated.

Yours for a world without money,

R




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