On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Adam Schrotenboer wrote:

> On 6/5/11 3:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Ok, the chip is from 3Q'10 and PCI-E 3.0 is from November 2010, but
>> 1.0a is a bit silly too.
> 
> Blame Intel and their silly market segmentation. xref Intel's DMI bus
> for more laughs.

Agreed.

> 
>> 
>> For what it's worth, if people need to slot a longer
>> card, http://www.adexelec.com/pciexp.htm has
>> adapters that should allow longer cards to slot, just work at x1
>> speeds. They also have cards to
>> adapt a standard x1 card (or longer with the same adapters) into a
>> PCI-E mini card slot.
>> 
>> I'm having trouble finding any usable x1 cards.  A 4x 1G NIC is an x4
>> card.  Most SATA cards are
>> x4 or longer as well.  Has anyone found any fun x1 cards other than
>> sound, rs232/parallel, video
>> capture and low end video card?
>    As much as it might seem unnecessary on the net6501, I've been
> wondering when Soekris would release a gigabit or at least PCIe update
> to the lan17[24]1 (gigabit isn't _that_ necessary for most edge routing).
> 
>    Also worth noting that for various reasons of practicality,
> PCIe(1.0) x1 is questionable for more than 2 ports. I have similar
> issues with the proliferation of SiI3132 cards out there (2 SATA3.0
> ports sitting on PCIe x1).
>    At least with ethernet, you might not be as interested/needful in
> saturating the line.

Gigabit ethernet isn't necessary for the routing part, but many people
like to pretend Linux bridging is the same as switching and expect
it to go at line rate.  It does make me wonder if the on-board can go
at line rate themselves, given that the processor has 4 x1 lanes of
PCIe and the chipset has only 1 Gig-E.  Are the 4 x1 lanes not taken
up by the two mini card and the two full-sized PCIe headers?

At least with a 2 port SATA card, you aren't likely to max out a PCIe x1
connection with spinning disks.

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