Hallo Cecil,

I wrote originally some notes about pll's because I was asked to do
so. It is a very simple and maybe basic type of information, I gave.

Now, I would like to hear from You the "other side of the world",
which advantages are to await from a digitial system?

Would You like to send some lines about the essential parts and give
an explanation about the main topics?

Wolfgang


--- In [email protected], KD5NWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are thinking in terms of analog mixers, Digital QSD mixers are a 
> whole other world. QSD mixers have to have a square wave clock, and 
> function way better than a analog mixer if given a low phase noise 
> "digital" clock. If they are given an analog sine wave for a clock, 
> you would have to turn that back into a digital signal which can 
> introduce jitter, so when possible it's best to keep the clock 
> digital as much as possible. In a well designed QSD system a clock 
> divider will improve the phase noise figures not make it worse.
> 
> 
> Food for thought.
> 
> 
> At 04:03 PM 4/8/2006, you wrote:
> >An addendum to my info:
> >
> > From this paper, I gave You the internet-adress, You can clearly see
> >and take some consequences for receiver constructing.
> >
> >1.1. If one has an oscillator with phase-noise, You not only mix the
> >oscillator not only with the incoming frequency, but also with the
> >phase-noise of the oscilltor. It is something like a synchronous
> >mixing with a lot of frequencies and a lot of mixing products. The
> >less the bandwidth of the phase-noise the better for quality of mixing
> >result.
> >
> >1.2. At mixing You mix a strong signal (the oscillator-signal) with a
> >very little one, the incoming signal. Partly You have to filter the
> >product.
> >
> >1.3. You should avoid all solutions with phase noise inclusive
> >solutions with ic-dividers.
> >
> >1.4. The better the signal of the mixing process, the better the
> >result. Because of that, to gain ultimate quality, You should forget a
> >lot of solutions and change to a dds-circuit with a very high
> >working-frequency. All other solutions have a lack of quality, to
> >reach ultimate success.
> >
> >1.5. The alternative could be a quartz-osciallator, but one is not
> >able to change the frequency in a wider range.
> >
> >1.6. My "feeling is" even concepts with I,Q-solutions could be better,
> >if a fast dds-circuit is used.
> >
> >1.7. Having a rectangular signal meens a lot of filtering.... and a
> >lot of useless noise.
> >
> >One can see, that using a fast dds-circuit is at the moment even for
> >traditional receveiver concepts in let me say AM, SSB and other
> >modulation-types is "state of the art" and You miss-use time and
> >effort for other versions.
> >
> >I will look for answers coming. In the meantime, I will work with
my DRT1.
> >
> >An incoming signal is always not a digital one even, if its
> >constructed digital by modulation as DRM.
> >
> >Wolfgang
> >
> >--- In [email protected], "Wolfgang Hartmann"
> ><dadalbinder@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hallo to all, especially to Dan.
> > >
> > > Here is an email adress, wher You can find some informations in
german
> > > language.
> > >
> > > http://www.elexs.de/clock3.htm
> > >
> > > You see the phase-noise and the noise carpet of several designs.
> > >
> > > They have a lot more on DRM, Elektor-receiver.
> > >
> > > Wolfgang
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Cecil Bayona
> KD5NWA
> www.qrpradio.com
> 
> "Windows the worlds most successful software virus"
>









 
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