--- In [email protected], FRANCIS CARCIA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Double balanced diode ring mixers love a square wave LO. Transition
through the diode knee is faster making less distortion. fc

As do Gilbert cell mixers such as the NE602 and LM1496 ICs ... main
difference is you need a lot more LO drive for a diode DBM

JR


> KD5NWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You are thinking in terms of analog
mixers, Digital QSD mixers are a 
> whole other world. QSD mixers have to have a square wave clock, and 
> function way better than a analog mixer if given a low phase noise 
> "digital" clock. If they are given an analog sine wave for a clock, 
> you would have to turn that back into a digital signal which can 
> introduce jitter, so when possible it's best to keep the clock 
> digital as much as possible. In a well designed QSD system a clock 
> divider will improve the phase noise figures not make it worse.
> 
> 
> Food for thought.
> 
> 
> At 04:03 PM 4/8/2006, you wrote:
> >An addendum to my info:
> >
> > From this paper, I gave You the internet-adress, You can clearly see
> >and take some consequences for receiver constructing.
> >
> >1.1. If one has an oscillator with phase-noise, You not only mix the
> >oscillator not only with the incoming frequency, but also with the
> >phase-noise of the oscilltor. It is something like a synchronous
> >mixing with a lot of frequencies and a lot of mixing products. The
> >less the bandwidth of the phase-noise the better for quality of mixing
> >result.
> >
> >1.2. At mixing You mix a strong signal (the oscillator-signal) with a
> >very little one, the incoming signal. Partly You have to filter the
> >product.
> >
> >1.3. You should avoid all solutions with phase noise inclusive
> >solutions with ic-dividers.
> >
> >1.4. The better the signal of the mixing process, the better the
> >result. Because of that, to gain ultimate quality, You should forget a
> >lot of solutions and change to a dds-circuit with a very high
> >working-frequency. All other solutions have a lack of quality, to
> >reach ultimate success.
> >
> >1.5. The alternative could be a quartz-osciallator, but one is not
> >able to change the frequency in a wider range.
> >
> >1.6. My "feeling is" even concepts with I,Q-solutions could be better,
> >if a fast dds-circuit is used.
> >
> >1.7. Having a rectangular signal meens a lot of filtering.... and a
> >lot of useless noise.
> >
> >One can see, that using a fast dds-circuit is at the moment even for
> >traditional receveiver concepts in let me say AM, SSB and other
> >modulation-types is "state of the art" and You miss-use time and
> >effort for other versions.
> >
> >I will look for answers coming. In the meantime, I will work with
my DRT1.
> >
> >An incoming signal is always not a digital one even, if its
> >constructed digital by modulation as DRM.
> >
> >Wolfgang
> >
> >--- In [email protected], "Wolfgang Hartmann"
> ><dadalbinder@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hallo to all, especially to Dan.
> > >
> > > Here is an email adress, wher You can find some informations in
german
> > > language.
> > >
> > > http://www.elexs.de/clock3.htm
> > >
> > > You see the phase-noise and the noise carpet of several designs.
> > >
> > > They have a lot more on DRM, Elektor-receiver.
> > >
> > > Wolfgang
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Cecil Bayona
> KD5NWA
> www.qrpradio.com
> 
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