And it happened again. The scene was saved successfully, I was working on the 
scene over an hour or so, and I had to restart SI, and the scene is unable to 
load...I tried with a fresh new install, in vain. Thanks god, it was nothing 
very important
It'd be nice to have a scene diagnostic tool, that tries to load the scene, and 
report any issues, in normal format, like Object %objectname% has issues with 
%description of the issue%



Chris, I'll send the scene on Monday! Tear it apart...this is more annoying 
than a crash...


Cheers,


Szabolcs
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WHATTA HELL???????


Thanks Chris!

I´ll see if I can set up a generic repro scene on the weekend or on Monday.

At least for the Regularize after Unfold thing.

Regarding *.scn files not opening, I´m lucky enough to only have that on very 
rare occasions with third party render engines but usually merging scenes 
solved this sofar.

I tend to use vanilla installs (except for the renderer) btw, since any shop 
you end up freelancing at will most likely not have that precious 
tool/plugin/script you´ve built your workflows around anyway...

It´s hard enough to remember I use the Maya mouse button mappings for 
ZOOM/PAN/ETC but still the XSI keymapping...

Always makes you look stupid when trying to navigate on another guys machine

Cheers,


tim


On 06.07.2012 14:55, Chris Chia wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> Just fyi, we treat every SI crash very seriously. If you have a scene file 
> that causes a crash when opened or have performed certain operations in 
> Softimage which lead to a crash, please let us know.
>
> Ps: but please ensure that you do not have any custom operator in the scene.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 5 Jul, 2012, at 11:38 PM, "Tim Crowson" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> That's sad, because I've been feeling the same way about 2012's stability. 
> Our artists have more crashes with 2012 SAP than they ever had with all 
> previous versions of Soft combined.
>
>
> Tim Crowson
> Lead CG Artist
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
> On 7/5/2012 10:28 AM, Szabolcs Matefy wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the comments and help!
>
> I managed to find an older crashsave, and I recovered the scene from it. I 
> had Species rig in the scene, but it was working just fine, yet it removed 
> it. I also had installed Move Normal prior to the disaster, so I removed it 
> also. The scene was not opening any on our computers.
>
> I tend to believe what our artists say, SI 2013 line is cursed...they 
> returned to 2012 SAP, and I am the sole 2013 user...
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Szabolcs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> [email protected]<mailto:softimage-bounces@listp
> roc.autodesk.com> [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Rob Chapman
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:47 PM
> To: ThomasV; 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >
> Subject: Re: WHATTA HELL???????
>
> and tried  merging the problematic scene?  been here before, its
> horrible :/   think there is some debug mode you can switch on in the
> SI startup script as well which may help, Fabrice did a while back 
> when we encountered some errors on previously loadable scenes , think 
> it was an error on a reference model in the end
>
>
>
> On 5 July 2012 13:42, ThomasV 
> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Try opening on another system (win <-> linux) if possible. A while ago 
> I could open scenes on my linux-box, that were crashing on Win.
>
>
>
> good luck!
>
> /Thomas
>
>
> Szabolcs Matefy <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> 
> hat am 5. Juli 2012 um 14:28
> geschrieben:
>
> I am on 2013 SP1
>
> I can't load the backups, instant crash
>
> I removed the new plugins, no help
>
> I tried all you suggested, in vain
>
> I sacrifice a black rooster, maybe Baron Samedi will help to fix this...
>
>
>
> From: 
> [email protected]<mailto:softimage-bounces@listp
> roc.autodesk.com> [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Agg
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:25 PM
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >
> Subject: Re: WHATTA HELL???????
>
>
>
> Try unloading any reference models using the scntoc file. That has 
> sometimes helped to narrow down the problem for me.
>
> On 5 July 2012 13:19, Simon Anderson 
> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
> are you using softimage 2010?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Pete Edmunds 
> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Have a look in the Backup folder within the project there should be 4 
> backups of that scene do those load?
>
>
>
> On 5 July 2012 13:12, Martin <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> This may not be what you are looking for but, after you have tried 
> everything, you could try to open it with "Disable all geometry 
> operators on load" checked and/or some other options in the Scene Debugging 
> tab.
>
>
>
> If the scene is simple there may be some data you can recover.
>
>
>
> M.Yara
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Ben Houston 
> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would suggest ensuring that no third party plugins are loaded at 
> all.  It could be you updated a plugin and that plugin is buggy.
> -ben
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Szabolcs Matefy 
> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Can anybody tell me what can I do, if I can't load my scenes saved 
> previously and loaded perfectly this before?????? Suddenly Softimage 
> crashes on my scenes, and it seems that I lost whole 3 days of job.
> However, there were no crashes, and no issues at all...What the hell is 
> going on????????
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
> Szabolcs
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