> > but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract gamblers.
Actually... it's cheap because why would I dump money into a stock that hasn't done jack sh** in 5 years, vs dumping money into a company that's exploding. Proof: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/403879/AppleVsMS.png ... but feel free to defend MS every time I post something about Apple. I'm not really sure why you do that Luc. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kiril Aronofski <[email protected]>wrote: > RE: desktops are doomed > > Don't forget all this mobile devices are consumerist in nature - someone > will somehow still have to create the content for them to consume. Desktop > sales are in decline as most people realize they can survive with a tablet > and a phone. In my opinion Microsoft is trying to leverage both worlds by > making this hybrid system where "a desktop" is a professional environment > you can enter if you wish so, but "metro" is the frontend - something most > users will be spending their time in. For the record, I do not think they > are even close to making it all work right now. They have invaded > power-user's/enterprise's space heavily and sacrificed it in an effort to > appeal to the market they desperately need a foot in. Than again, PC's have > been skipping every other version of windows forever now so how is this > anything new? > > And Gene, I agree he shouldn't be talking down to onyone based on what OS > they are using... but Apple's dominance is in mobile world (in other words, > iOS) and that's where their value comes from. Microsoft still owns the > largest chunk of desktop market so, technically, he is offending only a > small percentage of "just about everyone". > > > -Kiril > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Nicolas Burtnyk > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling >>> market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. >>> Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in >>> three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract >>> gamblers. >> >> >> Actually Apple and Microsoft have almost identical PE ratios so their >> stock price vs. actual company performance (earnings) is almost identical. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Gene Crucean >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> "They're mac users after all." >>> > >>> > >>> > You know you are talking down to just about everybody these days right? >>> > Apple was just reported as the worlds most valuable company. >>> > >>> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/story/2012-08-20/apple-most-valuable-company/57161260/1 >>> > (check the dates on that too. MS hasn't been at that valuation since >>> > 1999!!!) >>> >>> As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling >>> market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. >>> Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in >>> three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract >>> gamblers. >>> >>> But if we want to play that game, adjusted for inflation MS was at >>> $853.7 billion in 1999. that number doesn't compare to apple's >>> $623.5 billion valuation today, it went much higher. And >>> meaninglessly so, because that's just a measure how much traders think >>> other traders will buy the stock for. >>> >>> >>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/28/maximizing-shareholder-value-the-dumbest-idea-in-the-world/ >>> >> >> > -- Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer ** *Freelance for hire* ** www.genecrucean.com ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com for any personal emails. Thanks. I may not get them at this address. ~~
