Interesting how heated this is still getting when the differences are actually growing smaller every day. :-)
Windows Explorer has grown as crappy as the stock Finder, but for both there are good replacements (I use XYplorer and Pathfinder but there are many). I run both systems on a MacPro and I'm happy to be able to switch - right now I have a project that needs both. I tried Windows 8 on a machine in a store lately and found Metro much less of a problem than I thought. And there already is a "Classic Start Menu" Version that supports Windows 8, it replaced the - IMO crappy - Win7 Startmenu for me a long time ago. I have been able to disable almost everything I ever wanted to disable on either system, from replacing the ugly start graphics (on both systems) to the automatic window-opening on OSX Lion or the zip folder functionality in Windows. On Mountain Lion, you can SaveAs again when holding CTRL and open non-signed apps also with CTRL. I guess I'll find some things to like in Win8 as well. We'll see how it all turns out :-) Cheers, Tom On 21 August 2012 20:40, Luc-Eric Rousseau <[email protected]> wrote: > That's the gambling market.. money is made by speculating about how > much one could sell the stock to someone else in the future. The way > the stock market was supposed to work was that you bought shares in a > company in order to own part of it and get dividends, proportional to > your number of shares, from that company's revenue. In any case, > it's not a reflection of how many people run windows vs macs, which is > how this all started. :) > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Gene Crucean > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract gamblers. > > > > > > Actually... it's cheap because why would I dump money into a stock that > > hasn't done jack sh** in 5 years, vs dumping money into a company that's > > exploding. Proof: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/403879/AppleVsMS.png > > > > ... but feel free to defend MS every time I post something about Apple. > I'm > > not really sure why you do that Luc. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kiril Aronofski <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> RE: desktops are doomed > >> > >> Don't forget all this mobile devices are consumerist in nature - someone > >> will somehow still have to create the content for them to consume. > Desktop > >> sales are in decline as most people realize they can survive with a > tablet > >> and a phone. In my opinion Microsoft is trying to leverage both worlds > by > >> making this hybrid system where "a desktop" is a professional > environment > >> you can enter if you wish so, but "metro" is the frontend - something > most > >> users will be spending their time in. For the record, I do not think > they > >> are even close to making it all work right now. They have invaded > >> power-user's/enterprise's space heavily and sacrificed it in an effort > to > >> appeal to the market they desperately need a foot in. Than again, PC's > have > >> been skipping every other version of windows forever now so how is this > >> anything new? > >> > >> And Gene, I agree he shouldn't be talking down to onyone based on what > OS > >> they are using... but Apple's dominance is in mobile world (in other > words, > >> iOS) and that's where their value comes from. Microsoft still owns the > >> largest chunk of desktop market so, technically, he is offending only a > >> small percentage of "just about everyone". > >> > >> > >> -Kiril > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Nicolas Burtnyk < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling > >>>> market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. > >>>> Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in > >>>> three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract > >>>> gamblers. > >>> > >>> > >>> Actually Apple and Microsoft have almost identical PE ratios so their > >>> stock price vs. actual company performance (earnings) is almost > identical. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Gene Crucean > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> "They're mac users after all." > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > You know you are talking down to just about everybody these days > >>>> > right? > >>>> > Apple was just reported as the worlds most valuable company. > >>>> > > >>>> > > http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/story/2012-08-20/apple-most-valuable-company/57161260/1 > >>>> > (check the dates on that too. MS hasn't been at that valuation since > >>>> > 1999!!!) > >>>> > >>>> As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling > >>>> market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. > >>>> Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in > >>>> three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract > >>>> gamblers. > >>>> > >>>> But if we want to play that game, adjusted for inflation MS was at > >>>> $853.7 billion in 1999. that number doesn't compare to apple's > >>>> $623.5 billion valuation today, it went much higher. And > >>>> meaninglessly so, because that's just a measure how much traders think > >>>> other traders will buy the stock for. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/28/maximizing-shareholder-value-the-dumbest-idea-in-the-world/ > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX > > Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer > > ** Freelance for hire ** > > www.genecrucean.com > > > > ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com for any > > personal emails. Thanks. I may not get them at this address. ~~ > > >
