To put out a more positive comment...
I'm pretty happy with my SI2013SP1 and Arnold combo.
I still see a steady stream of really nice plugins, ICE tools and such
pass me by on the forums. It's never been this good before version 7 or so.
All this doom and gloom talk isn't helping, and at some point will
spiral into a self-fulfilling prophecy. I visited one of the few SI
places in Amsterdam lately, and the talk was quickly on "AD is about to
kill off SI". All this mumbling makes people very twitchy.
We're all very passionate about our software. And when I'm seeing great
render engines and tools pop up for Softimage again and again, I still
see a nice future for Softimage.
Maybe AD can finally be a little less cryptic on the whole thing, and
maybe Chris can give us some small spoilers on what's ahead for SI2014.
So we can all go back to doing the thing we love, creating great looking
images with our beloved particle app. ;-)
peace?
Rob
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On 13-9-2012 10:12, Jules Stevenson wrote:
I completely agree with this Marc. There is so much negative sentiment
in this thread that I'd be surprised if AD is still listening. Some of
the folks there are probably pretty proud to work for them and have a
genuine interest in Soft, so this thread is painful reading. I don't
agree with the marketing of soft at all, but I do still 'evangelize'
the product, and will continue to do so until there is something which
for us as a studio works better (we jumped from Maya to Soft about 5
years ago and haven't looked back since).
If AD were to sink this beautiful ship then so be it. Until that point
for the good of my sanity, my crew and my studio, I will continue to
push the usage of Softimage, and ignore a small graphic that is very
hard to find (I'm on the marketing lists for Max, Maya and Soft, and
pretty much every other bit of AD spam plus my reseller) and never
personally received or saw it.
There is little point in begrudging the AD employees that are doing
what they can do with what resources they have to keep soft out there
- these are the guys that are 'on our side'. Stating that the software
is EOL is also massively counter-productive, it's a
lovely juicy soundbite to throw around the office. Shit sticks, even
if it's unfounded.
The proof of commitment (or not) will be seen in the next release.
Cheers,
Jules
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Marc Brinkley
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So um, i just thinking that if I were ADSK and was listening to
this conversation
My existing customers of the software believe the software is EOL
My existing customers of the software are telling other customers
not to bother instead of evangelizing the software.
My customers decide not to believe me when i say we are continuing
to develop the software even when several members of team directly
say it.
If I were in their shoes, what do you suppose I would be thinking.
Seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me.
Not directed to anyone specifically. But if we dont believe they
why should they.
All things will end eventually, sure, and I am tried of fighting
an up hill battle, sure. But until I get a letter specifically
stating EOL and here are my side grade (or ahem, down grade)
options to other software, I will keep on using it.
:D
Sent from my car while driving
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From: Rob Chapman
Sent: 9/12/2012 1:13 PM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: In case you missed it..
So Maurice,
A brave effort with your rhetoric but sadly the results you
achieved are letting you down. It is exactly what we did not
expect or *were used to* before you are your crew took it upon
yourselves to remarket Softimage within the given framework of M&E
apps at AD. Do you think what you have done has improved things
for the existing Softimage user base? can you account for how
Softimage has less penetration now in the market as a fully
featured Application to base an entire pipeline off** and has much
less 'perceived' value than before you began your current campaign?
bravo! didnt you do well!? I believe you have failed quite
miserably at your job and should most definitely be more
respectful than 'be happy with possible increased sales and deal
with it' to those whose value as professionals within this
industry are greatly diminished than they were 4 years ago. Are
you at all surprised that those you have sacrificed to the greater
good that is Maya don't want any further business with Autodesk?
**where I work the studio has many hundreds of commercials,3
short movies with countless awards and one was bafta nominated
this year - all made with this measly particle plugin and not a
single Maya or Max in sight.
On 12 September 2012 20:41, Maurice Patel
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Well, we have said that we are committed to developing and
marketing Softimage. It might not be exactly in the way you
expect but that commitment has been explicitly stated by
myself and others. The discussion has been about our tactics
and why we do things the way we do.
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 <tel:514%20954-7134>
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of
Daniel H
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:59 PM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: In case you missed it..
Re: "We are very well aware and I and my team work hard to do
the most we can with the resources we have." - Maurice Patel
Seriously Maurice... you have any-time access to "freely"
speak directly to the main vein of the SI community. Does it
cost AD anything to make a simple text statement of confidence
on a list, blog, or forum? Is Autodesk really committed to the
future and continuing development of Softimage? Is Softimage
just being used as acquired tech to be robbed from? It's ok if
it's the later, although we won't transition over to Maya,
we'll just counter by transitioning to Houdini.
Do you really want my continued business Maurice? Does
Autodesk really want to keep my business? Should we just get
it over with and start giving our hard-earned money to SideFX?
3D software isn't cheap ya know. What would you like us to do?
Where's a free statement or two of "confidence" to keep us
investing in Softimage?
Daniel
VFXM
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