When it comes to the way Photoshop handles alphas, thats a fundamental philosophical issue(I'm struggling to be polite here) that Adobe developers have that affects far more formats than just pic. There are ways to get pic files out of Photoshop the way that animators want them, but due to the Adobe philosophy its a complicated and incredibly time consuming effort and error prone process when it should not be.

I guess what I am really curious about is why there is so much interest by folks in using these non-native formats which are filled with all sorts of extra stuff such as layers, channels, paths, metadata, and potentially incompatible compressions schemes. Do they provide seriously important value over the native formats(pic in Softimage, iff in Maya) to warrant the risks?

Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
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On 11/16/2012 3:05 PM, Leoung O'Young wrote:
We like pic too, smaller than tifs.
We did have some problem with pic in some of the Photoshop versions
when the pic alpha channel layer gets change to transparency layer

On 11/16/2012 2:16 PM, Ponthieux, Joey wrote:
So I am curious why no one is using SI pic? That is the native format.

Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
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On 11/16/2012 1:38 PM, Steven Caron wrote:
slow chant... tif... tif.. tif. tif tif.

:)


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Mental ray on supports 8 bit png, afaik

    On Nov 16, 2012 1:26 PM, "Gene Crucean"
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        png is an excellent format regardless of what it was
        designed for. But yes, it's true they aren't for everything.


        On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Steven Caron
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            they have no mip mapping support and it was primarily
            for web development... no thanks



            On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Adam Seeley
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:


                I use png's as much as possible, never seems to be a
                problem with texturing or rendering.

                Good lossless compression keeps re-load times down
                when compositing.

                Flame/Smoke can't load them of course!

                Adam


                
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                *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat
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                *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working
                in softimage?

                What do people here use as a standard format?  I
                always thought tiff
                was the least offensive format but after running
                into some issues with
                the byte order bs we're wondering if png's might be
                better?

                On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Gene Crucean
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
                > .tif's =  the devil
                >
                >
                >
                > ... that is all
                >
                >
                >
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