The value is understanding how things work under the hood so you know how to 
construct the graphs efficiently to accomplish goals.  Having a graph interface 
is just that, an interface.  In that regard, ICE knowledge will probably be not 
very useful as Softimage's internal guts are very different from Maya's.


Matt



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Chia
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:10 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Rumors

Hi Tim,
ICE will not move to Maya but Maya may integrate a system similar to ICE. This 
move should actually benefit all Softimage users... Think about it, wouldn't 
all Softimage ICE users benefit this new system first with our prior knowledge 
of ICE compared to the newbies...

As for whether Softimage will be removed from Autodesk, I think you shouldn't 
worry too much... Because the first person to fear should be me ;) but I am 
still in the team...

I think as long as there is a strong user base in SI, Softimage will continue 
to be there... So regarding the rumour, don't fall into it... Because if 
everyone believes in it and starts moving to other DCC, then Softimage may then 
be in serious trouble...


Chris

On 20 Dec, 2012, at 1:03 AM, "Tim Marinov" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if doesn't 
make enough money from it.
But who cares as someone said the world will end in a couple of days :)


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Tim Marinov 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
If this really happens they are not going to remove the ICE from Softimage but 
Softimage will fade out slowly from Autodesk.ICE is the only reason Softimage 
is still around.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Francois Lord 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Are you surprised to hear that the best tool in Softimage is being ported to 
Maya?
Really?

Luc-Eric said publicly that they were working on something for Maya. But it 
wasn't ICE. It was different and it addressed different needs. But we all now 
it will be some kind of procedural operator building thingy.

I personnaly don't care. As long as they don't remove ICE in Softimage.

--
Francois


On 19/12/2012 09:18, Tim Marinov wrote:
I've heard that ICE and Naid are going to Maya..This rumor is coming  from one 
of the latest events .I am not going to specify, all I can say is from reliable 
source. I hope is not true for the ICE but I can't keep rely only on hopes.

No more Autodesk for us that for sure ......We (my company) recently started to 
realize that our industry is just fine without Autodesk and every day work is 
much more fun and productive.Houdini,Modo,Cinema4D,Nuke are some of the tools 
that are much better from what autodesk has to offer(buying and adding 
plugins,almost none development, introducing more and more bugs with each 
version, innovation and development are not their driving force but only 
moneymaking ).
Let's guys support this companies that care and love what they do as a product, 
this companies that are growing not only of making money but also of making 
innovations . We have to stop to be controlled from evil corporations and don't 
forget that we little people can make the difference and stay against the money 
sucking monsters.We are not zombies.....This is the only  way to see 
progress.......




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