Apart from one card which I had to boot twice to boot my computer,
I never had many problems specific with ATI,
except of course for CG shaders and Cuda things not working. (being
quite a biggie)
But what puzzles me is why developpers predominantly choose Cuda as
opposed to OpenCL
since OpenCL works on both platforms?
Is it technical reasons? or it's a Marketing thing? (Cuda sounding cooler?)
But for me, questionable ATI driver quality mostly has to do with the
interface, or general presentation.
(not that I often go fiddle with driver settings but..)
Everything is so "tacky" or like WindowsXP-y
Maybe Mr. Kodury might bring some influence from Mac on that side :)
On 21/04/2013 1:44 PM, Tim Leydecker wrote:
A bit of news:
Raja Koduri is going from Apple to AMD, becoming orporate Vice
President Visual Computing.
His tasks will include hard&software development for mobile and
desktop GPUs.
He´s been with AMD from 2001-2009, working on the R300 chips (Radeon
HD9700/Pro) and
it´s successors.
Personally, I can´t say much about ATI cards but the one that came
with my MacPro2008.
It wasn´t fast but Maya worked on it without glitches. Generally, the
AMD/ATI windows drivers
are said to have be frustrating in the past.
I would hope that the OpenGL and general driver quality for AMD
graphics cards gets a better
reputation by putting in more quality control.
I would think that there is a good chance this will happen as at least
one next generation console
is going to use AMD chips and the tests including the technical
specifications and burn-in of such
a plattform may benefit any related products, if only for a rigorous
testing pipeline in place already...
Cheers,
tim
On 21.04.2013 07:59, Sam wrote:
I said I haven’t bought one, but I’ve dealt with many of them, both
from friends and Family (which is why I haven’t bought one). I would
think that after 20 years they would get
their issues straightened out, but from what I’ve seen they haven’t
learned anything over the years. The last one I dealt with was about
6 months ago and I was shocked at how
dated the driver panel seemed. I felt like I was dealing with windows
3.1 technology by the way the thing was put together. Using it just
felt like the person or people who created
it just didn’t care how well it worked. If AMD (ATI) cards work for
you, great, but it’s going to take some pretty massive changes for me
to seriously consider using them again.
I think with programs like C4d and Modo, the developers go out of
their way to write their programs to work with them. I remember Modo
1.0 worked well with ATI (from what I heard
on the forums), but it had a lot of problems with NVidia cards. I
seem to remember that the developers were all using ATI cards at the
time…
*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*Raffaele Fragapane
*Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 12:37 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: AMD & MAXON Cinema 4D.
I'm not an ATI fan, but if you haven't tried one in 20 years maybe
you might be a bit unreasonable :)
While drivers wise nVIDIA still has an edge, and usually every
generation they are the top performer for a while longer (although
that's a chasing game), AMD has been on top of
bang for buck for quite a while, and once you find a decent driver
you can stick with it for quite a while with good success, just they
are fewer and further apart than nVIDIA's,
which also has had many messed up releases.
It's not healthy to be so strongly prejudiced, while I don't think
it's there yet for me to consider as a viable alternative, but I also
have some time invested in CUDA and none in
OCL, AMD is worth keeping an eye out for, and it's far from the
catastrophic experience it was five years ago on average.
For the record, C4D has run absolutely flawlessly on ATI for year
now, all the way back to the first radeons.
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Sam <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My motto for video cards is “if it says ATI AMD on the outside it’s
crap on the inside”. I don’t care how fast a card is, if the drivers
suck, the card is going to suck. ATI
drivers have always sucked (first one I bought was about 20 years ago
(it was also the last one I bought)) and it hasn’t changed since AMD
took over. I’ve had friends buy the cards
because of the benchmarks and they have always had problems, and just
recently I had to fix my niece’s laptop because the latest AMD update
made her 3d games unplayable (built her
a computer with an NVIDIA card for Christmas so I would never have to
deal with it again). I honestly have never known anyone who had an
ATI card that was happy with it.
*From:*[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Sven
Constable
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:20 AM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* RE: AMD & MAXON Cinema 4D.
"…AMD FirePro™ W-Series is fully tested, certified & optimised for
MAXON Cinema 4D…"
I don't buy that anymore. I bought a FirePro couple years ago
(actually it was its predecessor named FireGL), just because AMD
claimed the same for Softimage (fully certified, yeah
right). They should have stated "…viewport glitches and selection
hangs have been reduced somewhat..." :)
*From:*[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*Leoung O'Young
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 16:21
*To:* xsi
*Subject:* AMD & MAXON Cinema 4D.
Interesting development between Maxon and AMD
Maxon is busy setting up partnerships, Adobe, and now AMD
Now if only Autodesk will start doing some of this with Softimage, I
will be a happy man
http://www.animationxpress.com/images/AMD_FirePropacks_more_speed.html
*AMD FirePro™ W-Series packs more speed, power and performance to
fuel stunning, cutting-edge 3D animations in MAXON Cinema 4D.*
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