>From memory, Soft hair is Shave and a Haircut, I am pretty sure they bought 
>the rights to use it from Joe (or at least pay a royalty for the rights)

N

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling
Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013 10:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Maya Xgen

A character fx td once told me that S&H looks a lot like softimages old hair 
solution, he also sells a plugin that seems to do the same thing as the 
secondary shape modelling mode, only you can actually sculpt correctives using 
a brush.
Poor Peregrine, i guess this kinda screws Yeti, any innovation that might stand 
them compared to xGen is countered by the fact that Xgen is shipped with maya 
and they still are not allowed to sell in America or risk the wrath of Joe 
Alter...

On 11 August 2013 13:38, Raffaele Fragapane 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Oh and if you're ever curious:
http://gametimeip.com/2011/10/07/inventor-of-patented-cgi-technique-runs-to-court-after-a-walt-disney-runaround/

Read the comments, not the article, they are a borderline unprecedented mix of 
disclosure and quiet, indignant rage.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Of course he does, particularly with xGen going commercial.
He sued Disney over it and won an undisclosed settlement (it's not on record 
whether it's royalties or a flat payment).
http://patentexaminer.org/2011/10/disney-sued-for-infringing-virtual-hair-raising-patent/

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Nick Angus 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I am sure he still makes money from it with that obscure little patent he 
holds...

-----Original Message-----
From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Chris Gardner
Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013 7:04 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Maya Xgen
It beats having to pay Joe Alter for the privilege of having decent grooming 
tools...

the xgen demo looks to be *ahem* a cut above shave's tools. (sorry)

cheers,
chrisg

On 10 August 2013 15:22, Eric Lampi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> This just came across my feed on Facebook. It's so damned annoying to
> see them make a huge deal out of this kind of pedestrian crap. OK the
> hair stuff was nice, but is anyone really that impressed with a hair
> styling tool? Exactly how often do you say to yourself "Oh no!! How am
> I ever going to style the hair on these ALL of these characters!!??"



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