I think the point being made is that it's too frequent.
Even a positive thread, such as the vein this was started in, becomes a
bitch session very quickly.

I disagree this is the place to constantly, incessantly and exclusively
whinge and bitch and whine. Some on key disturbances or negatives, sure,
but this has officially become the complaints list.

That is not why I, or many others who elect to stay silent in these
regards, have subscribed to it.

If the majority of people think, however, that that's how it should be
used, then I'm sure things will work out that way eventually, and those of
us who're tired of it will simply leave.
I've had my finger on the unsubscribe email more than once at this point,
and I sure don't feel encourage to post when the near totality of what is
going on is a bunch of people asking trivial questions interspersing a
crowd foaming at the mouth.

Regarding the "efforts to stay positive", which I've seen mentioned by
several people, I can't say I'm witnessing any. When not a single e-mail is
positive you can't call that an honest effort to stay positive, or anything
else, really.
It sounds more and more, when people mention it, like the people saying
"I'm not racist, BUT", and then a retarded backwater racism comment follows.

Sorry Eric, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this. I don't think
think this is "certainly a good place to do so". This is a mailing list for
the users, chiefly, so all you're doing is annoying the hell out of the few
who have elected to not cry over themselves the whole day as a past time,
and constantly rile the already angry ones into this vicious circle of
bitching.

And since my participation to the mailing list seems to frequently turn to
whinging about the whining, and the irony isn't lost on me, that'll be all
from me.


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Eric Thivierge <[email protected]>wrote:

> As a user and 3rd party developer I think it's well deserved. Even if
> AD wasn't doing a pretty poor job at marketing (though the recent posts
> were very nice to see as an effort being put forward), they aren't
> doing much to inspire the 3rd party devs to continue to develop it.
> Even Luc-Eric is doing a fair good job on si-community to scare away
> any potential / 3rd party Softimage devs saying that he believes they
> will dry up within a few years. Yes it's his opinion but why wouldn't
> it carry some weight from his history / position.
>
> We need a place to complain. An AD hosted mailing list is certainly a
> good place to do so since they don't really have another decent place
> to do so.
>
> I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard to with the minimal
> communication we're getting.
>
>
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