I agree too.




2013/9/30 Ahmidou Lyazidi <[email protected]>

> I aggree, I think complaints should be adressed to the people in charge
> (product manager ot whatever it is called).
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> 2013/10/1 Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected]>
>
>> I think the point being made is that it's too frequent.
>> Even a positive thread, such as the vein this was started in, becomes a
>> bitch session very quickly.
>>
>> I disagree this is the place to constantly, incessantly and exclusively
>> whinge and bitch and whine. Some on key disturbances or negatives, sure,
>> but this has officially become the complaints list.
>>
>> That is not why I, or many others who elect to stay silent in these
>> regards, have subscribed to it.
>>
>> If the majority of people think, however, that that's how it should be
>> used, then I'm sure things will work out that way eventually, and those of
>> us who're tired of it will simply leave.
>> I've had my finger on the unsubscribe email more than once at this point,
>> and I sure don't feel encourage to post when the near totality of what is
>> going on is a bunch of people asking trivial questions interspersing a
>> crowd foaming at the mouth.
>>
>> Regarding the "efforts to stay positive", which I've seen mentioned by
>> several people, I can't say I'm witnessing any. When not a single e-mail is
>> positive you can't call that an honest effort to stay positive, or anything
>> else, really.
>> It sounds more and more, when people mention it, like the people saying
>> "I'm not racist, BUT", and then a retarded backwater racism comment follows.
>>
>> Sorry Eric, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this. I don't think
>> think this is "certainly a good place to do so". This is a mailing list for
>> the users, chiefly, so all you're doing is annoying the hell out of the few
>> who have elected to not cry over themselves the whole day as a past time,
>> and constantly rile the already angry ones into this vicious circle of
>> bitching.
>>
>> And since my participation to the mailing list seems to frequently turn
>> to whinging about the whining, and the irony isn't lost on me, that'll be
>> all from me.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Eric Thivierge <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> As a user and 3rd party developer I think it's well deserved. Even if
>>> AD wasn't doing a pretty poor job at marketing (though the recent posts
>>> were very nice to see as an effort being put forward), they aren't
>>> doing much to inspire the 3rd party devs to continue to develop it.
>>> Even Luc-Eric is doing a fair good job on si-community to scare away
>>> any potential / 3rd party Softimage devs saying that he believes they
>>> will dry up within a few years. Yes it's his opinion but why wouldn't
>>> it carry some weight from his history / position.
>>>
>>> We need a place to complain. An AD hosted mailing list is certainly a
>>> good place to do so since they don't really have another decent place
>>> to do so.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard to with the minimal
>>> communication we're getting.
>>>
>>>
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