Preventing a scene open in batch mode because of the FR flag... was that
really necessary?

I too was hit by this unpleasant behavior the one time I used it in
production.



On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Ognjen Vukovic <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think thats the main problem. To get rid of face robot now, one would
> have to access every scene and model in the project and delete all the
> appropriate property's, and models which in itself is a mammoth task. And
> if by any chance you skipped one thing your back at square one, because all
> it takes is one model somewhere to infect everything again...
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> disabling face robot and saving the scene really does remove it, but if
>> you're using reference models, you'll need to save those too again because
>> the face robot flag is on models.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Angus Davidson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Stephen
>>>
>>>  That’s the theory. In practice not so much. We have spent hours trying
>>> to remove it from files, and in one case last year it prevented one of the
>>> students from using the render farm. No matter what we did it kept coming
>>> back.
>>>
>>>  Kind regards
>>>
>>>  Angus
>>>
>>>   From: Stephen Blair <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> Date: Monday 28 October 2013 at 2:16 PM
>>>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: FaceRobot
>>>
>>>   Disable and save scene. That's it. Is the property really is an
>>> infection?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Angus Davidson <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Have to agree. For all the good that face robot can do. Especially
>>>> with students who hit the incorrect buttons on occasions its a lifetime of
>>>> grief trying to get rid of the damn thing. Face Robot should not have a
>>>> default key binding. Plain and simple. Also when you deactivate face robot
>>>> you should be given a prompt to remove the rest of its infection from the
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> Date: Monday 28 October 2013 at 12:13 PM
>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: FaceRobot
>>>>
>>>>    given the insidious behaviour of FaceRobot, this should really be
>>>> given some thought for the future.
>>>>
>>>> In every studio I went since FaceRobot exists, it has been perceived as
>>>> something akin to a virus, spontaneously messing around and infiltrating
>>>> production scenes. Every single production, some time is spent to keep it
>>>> out reliably and do some housekeeping after it reared its ugly head. I
>>>> think many people don’t want anything to do with it because of this. It’s
>>>> the obnoxious child that everyone dislikes.
>>>> Surely it could be taught more appropriate out of the box behaviour?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, if ICE was acting like that, people would be on the barricades,
>>>> raiding what’s left of Softimage headquarters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* gareth bell <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:40 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* RE: FaceRobot
>>>>
>>>>  oh - and that can be scripted....
>>>>
>>>> Application.DisableFaceRobot()
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: FaceRobot
>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:20:06 +0000
>>>>
>>>> Yeah we've had this before. Normally just disabling facerobot (whilst
>>>> switched to softimage layout) and then saving (probably a new version is
>>>> safer) tends to get rid of it. Also try unloading it in your workgroups and
>>>> deleting the custom property too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:48:08 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: FaceRobot
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Don't you have to disable Face Robot in the scene?
>>>>
>>>> http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=15241146&linkID=12544120
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Michael Heberlein <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If deleting the property is enough, you could do this in an
>>>> "siOnBeginSceneSave[As]" event.
>>>> Am 26.10.2013 21:06 schrieb "Ognjen Vukovic" <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Philipp,
>>>>
>>>>  Not having much luck, the number of scenes is already in the triple
>>>> digits so maybe some automation would solve everything but i have to take
>>>> into account that the deadline is in three days so i think it would be to
>>>> risky
>>>> now to try anything, i contemplated seriously deleting it from disk
>>>> while the project was running but im going to wait a couple more days and
>>>> nuke it from orbit the day we hand over the final.
>>>>
>>>>  Ogi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM, philipp seis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello Ognjen...yup thats nasty. Could you fix it already ? If not: We
>>>> batched all infected scenes: opening it, disabling facerobot by deleting
>>>> the facerobot custom property, saving and closing it. voila. I recall, that
>>>> my first approach was also fiddeling with the workgroup, but with not much
>>>> success. Good luck !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/10/26 Ognjen Vukovic <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> I was considering it but we are in the middle of a project, what are
>>>> the chances it will botch something up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Try deleting the face robot workgroup from.disk
>>>> Le 2013-10-26 07:40, "Ognjen Vukovic" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>   Is there a way to remove face Robot from a work-group and generally
>>>> from existence?
>>>>
>>>>  We are having a awesome time as someone in the early phases of the
>>>> project had it open somewhere in their scene and now it has reared its ugly
>>>> tentacles into the whole project, literally every model, scene and project
>>>> have been infected, in all this chaos i am sure i even saw it initialize
>>>> once when someone opened up after effects...
>>>>
>>>>  Is there a way to exorcise face robot from this project without
>>>> offering a sacrifice to Cthulhu?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks in advance,
>>>>  Ogi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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