Mmm ... I just waiting for my Modo order to go through. Add to that Houdini and I may dismiss Maya then. I'll still watch the training because I guess it'll give me some ideas of the workings in FX. Guess that's better than nothing.
I never really liked Maya, but I got the impression it was my best bet. See, even for this the list is amazing. :) On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < [email protected]> wrote: > Maya is used for FX in places where it's used end-to-end, usually places > with little concern for, or need to, have multi software pipes. > Anybody who can afford to deploy and tie together different pieces of > software has moved partially or entirely to Houdini for FX work over the > last five years or so. > > Animal Logic, Weta, DNeg, Framestore, DW, D2, RnH, all adopted to > different extents. It's a much longer list. Quite a few high end TVC > boutiques too. The Mill I think has had pretty decent results too, but > someone working there should confirm, I can't speak for them. > Even Disney and Pixar I believe, but not 100% sure to what extent and > probably not super pervasively as they had more than one very interesting > technique still tied to Maya user facing clients (XGen the most known, but > that's sort of more charFX and env than FX). > > Maya tends to see presence only for simplistic stuff, or when there's a > certain amount of legacy, or heritage in the good cases, that's still > functional. > > Houdini can be a pain int he arse for some things, but the sheer amount of > canned tools, solvers, and open ended graphs available covers practically > the whole range of FX with no plugins, and Mantra is getting better instead > of being obsoleted like most other integrated rendering engines out there > (I think only Modo and Houdini currently have engines that are not > routinely and instantly supplanted by any user who can). > > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Maurício PC <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Really? Damnit! >> >> I thought I would have a good change using Maya ... I even bought some >> training. lol >> >> Got that impression from all schools that I hear well teaching Maya and >> Houdini for FX, like Lost Boys, Gnomon. :/ >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> For high end fx work Maya offers few to none opportunities. Houdini is >>> king everywhere for FX, and in large film shops, again talking purely FX, >>> it's adoption is scary close to 100%. >>> Maya holds a similar monopoly only and exclusively for animation. >>> On 8 Mar 2014 09:47, "Maurício PC" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes ... I got word from Brad. >>>> >>>> It's always nice when you are able to get in touch with people who >>>> makes decisions. I'll buy Modo for my personal tool. I like where they are >>>> taking it. >>>> >>>> >>>> As for professional ... hell, I still use 3ds Max for FX and I'm >>>> currently learning Maya for FX also. I could go to Houdini, but that will >>>> have to wait as the job opportunities are greater in AD side. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Michael Clarke >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to >>>>> the list. I think they just had to remove the code because word spread too >>>>> quickly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when >>>>> the code was working. Now the code is gone. >>>>> >>>>> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to >>>>>> incorporate Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/ >>>>>> >>>>>> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance >>>>>> (around $550). >>>>>> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers >>>>>> look interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and >>>>>> upgrade >>>>>> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250, >>>>>> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your >>>>>> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total >>>>>> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it >>>>>> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly >>>>>> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading >>>>>> MODO >>>>>> alone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in >>>>>> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good >>>>>> path). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Webinar sounds great. +1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time >>>>>>>>> Softimage user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so >>>>>>>>> count me >>>>>>>>> in an webinar too >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> me too please >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Jon Swindells >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm interested in the webinar as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm also interested in the webinar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't mind knowing more >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 on webinar >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize >>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | www.inlifesize.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Marshall >>>>>>>>>> Mint Motion Limited >>>>>>>>>> 029 20 37 27 57 >>>>>>>>>> 07730 533 115 >>>>>>>>>> www.mintmotion.co.uk >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> bill hinkson >>>>>>>>>> animator & designer >>>>>>>>>> http://billhinksondesign.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dave Thomlison >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael Clarke Design >>>>>> Blue C Studios >>>>>> 713-927-9835 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> gonebadfx.com >>>>> - your source for bad fx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Michael Clarke Design >>>>> Blue C Studios >>>>> 713-927-9835 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> gonebadfx.com >>>> - your source for bad fx >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> gonebadfx.com >> - your source for bad fx >> > > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! 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