>
> As much as I would like to use Modo, unless they realise that Modo in
> education is important for them to gain momentum, they will forever be a
> niche DCC.


Couldn't agree more Angus. And you'll be pleased to know I'm not the only
person voicing this concern.

This info has nothing to do with the beta, else I'd face the wrath of beta
compliance! The sucky position on education with Modo doesn't come from
Foundry London, it's a hangover from the Luxology days. Anything that looks
like it can cannibalize the base (sales) is out. Just look at Modo Indie
languishing at Modo 10 on the Steam store, with Modo 12 soon to be released.

One day the ops/marketing team in LA will realise that education and indie
are a way to expand future Modo sales, not diminish them.


On 15 February 2018 at 16:53, Angus Davidson <angus.david...@wits.ac.za>
wrote:

> I really love Modo, Have ever since it forked ish  from Lightwave.
>
> When Autodesk double tapped Softimage for education we pushed incredibly
> hard to have Modo as our DCC instead of having to go to back to Maya.
>
> In the end the Foundries unwillingness to match Autocad's Educational
> policies forced us into 3 years of Maya Hell.
>
> We have now moved to Blender and its actually going well.
>
> As much as I would like to use Modo, unless they realise that Modo in
> education is important for them to gain momentum, they will forever be a
> niche DCC.
>
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> *Subject:* Re: Modeling Options
>
> Full transparency - I'm an alpha/beta tester for Foundry but IMHO nothing
> beats Modo for asset creation. It used to be flakey and bug ridden but
> since Modo 10 they moved over to a new incremental development strategy and
> things are far more solid. You can rent or buy outright but with the rental
> being circa $500 per annum it's actually not a bad route to take,
> especially if your unsure about any long term commitment. There's three
> major point releases each year, and you can set up a new 30 day demo for
> each. It's not an oversight, it's something the Modo team decided to
> provide seeing as each release brings significant new features.
>
> When you start moving beyond the asset creation toolset things are still a
> little flakey, badly designed or both. But for modelling, UVing etc nothing
> comes close for the money.
>
> Blender is obviously an option, but I think the modelling UX in Modo is
> worth the price of entry alone.
>
> On 15 February 2018 at 16:23, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> wrote:
>
>> Marc, are you by any chance trying to install on a Win10 machine?
>>
>> I had the exact same problem and some googling provided a solution:
>>
>> https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/softimage-forum/softimage-201
>> 5-error-1603-on-windows-10/td-p/6993199
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> Re: Softimage 2015 - error 1603 on Windows 10
>> Options
>> 04-05-2017 02:20 PM in reply to: brissef2
>> OK I found the solution.
>>
>> I had to uninstall the MS Visual C++ redist. 2012, both x86 and x64
>> versions, that were prevously installed on my machine.
>>
>> That apparently was the cause of the problem, since the setup process
>> kept rolling back the Softimage installation without those two installed
>> before it.
>>
>> Mysteries of Windows...
>>
>> Now there's another problem: the software doesn't support text scaling,
>> so with my 21:9 high res monitor the fonts and the icons are too small to
>> read!
>>
>> End Quote"
>>
>> This actually worked on my end, so you can give it a go.
>>
>> If everything fails, I would go with Blender if I were you.
>>
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Best Morten
>>
>>
>> > Den 14. februar 2018 klokken 19:01 skrev Marc Brinkley <
>> marc.brink...@microsoft.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey List
>> >
>> > So what are people modeling in these days? I am trying to get Soft up
>> and running again so I can do some basic modelling and what not. Mostly for
>> myself. But installation is not going so well. The usual 1603 error that I
>> am trying to diagnose without much luck. Even the ex-si support blog has
>> not be able to clue me in.
>> >
>> > But it got me wondering what people are using for modelling software
>> these days in case I cant get Soft running again (which I have to admit is
>> going happen some day).
>> >
>> > I would prefer a non-ADSK product for obvious bias. I have never been
>> able to get comfortable in Maya for modeling. It feels like modeling with
>> mittens on.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
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