Le 14 janv. 2010 à 11:04, Xu Xiaohu a écrit :

>> 
>> On 1/11/10 7:39 PM, Rémi Després wrote:
>>> 
>>> In 9.2, after
>>> "Additionally, a CE MUST allow packets sourced by the configured BR IPv4 
>>> Address"
>>> I suggest to add, for anti spoofing,
>>> ", provided their IPv6 source address doesn't start with the 6rd prefix"
>>> 
>> We've had operators interested in at least having the option to send
>> traffic through the BR even for CE sourced traffic from within the same
>> domain. Also, it is useful in some possible transition-to-native
>> scenarios to allow this. So, unless you have an identifiable security
>> concern that this helps to mitigate, I'd rather not add this kind of
>> restriction on the CE (and, it's an extra check, adding to complexity).

Following a discussion with Mark, who also made this point, and who noted than 
without this provision IPv6-address spoofing possibility are still those of 
their embedded IPv4 addresses, not less, not more, _I withdraw the proposal_.
Thanks for the comment. 

>>> I will also try to propose something on routing-loop avoidance.
>>> 
>> Thanks. Note that I'd rather avoid a detailed discussion on all the
>> looping possibilities (that's fine for the research paper Ole cited, or
>> the slides I put together in Hiroshima, or an Internet Draft on 6rd
>> Operations that I still hope to see some Operators produce, etc.). For
>> this document, I think it is better to keep the text limited strictly to
>> the implementation specification necessary to keep the possibilities of
>> spoofing and looping limited so 6rd cannot be exploited to invoke a
>> serious attack. I think we've captured that already, but please let me
>> know if you think we are missing some important normative language.

Agreed.
After discussing also this point with Mark, I agree to keep the text on this 
subject as is.

> There was a related discussion about how to avoid routing loops between
> multiple ISATAP routers (See
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/softwires/current/msg00857.html).
> Somebody argued that it is not practical for the ISATAP routers to use IPv4
> address which is unreachable outside the ISATAP domain in some cases. Hence
> I wonder whether the argument is also suitable for the 6rd scenario.
> 
> By the way, would it be better for preventing the routing loops if there
> were some well-known bits in the 6rd prefix?

This would IMHO add complexity, unnecessarily since routing loops are avoided 
with the described ingoing and outgoing filters in the BRs.

Best regards,

RD

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