> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rémi Després
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:59 AM
> To: Templin, Fred L
> Cc: [email protected]; Behave WG
> Subject: Re: [Softwires] [BEHAVE] PMTU Discovery and ICMPv6 filtering
> 
> 
> Le 8 févr. 2010 à 22:08, Templin, Fred L a écrit :
> 
> > Also, there seems to be some evidence that ICMPv6 PTB
> > messages are being dropped in the network.
> 
> In IPv6, I hope it will be possible to agree at least that 
> PTB messages SHOULD be forwarded (if not MUST).
> Reasons to not agree should IMHO be seriously documented.

Ben Stasiewicz's tests [*] on the IPv6 Internet show that 56% of
IPv6 hosts do not properly respond to ICMPv6 packet-too-big
with an MTU<1280.  I do not believe additional MUSTs in RFCs 
from the IETF would have a noticeable effect.

[*] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/behave/current/msg08093.html

-d


> > ... for DF=1 packets the tunnel
> > ingress MUST send an ICMP PTB when the packet is larger
> > than a fixed minimum tunnel MTU and also too large to
> > traverse the tunnel in a single piece. For packets that
> > are no larger than the fixed minimum tunnel MTU, the
> > tunnel ingress SHOULD use tunnel fragmentation (i.e.,
> > SEAL segmentation and reassembly). Presumably, the tunnel
> > ingress would choose a fixed minimum tunnel MTU that is
> > large enough so that source hosts will not see excessive
> > data loss and retransmissions due to path MTU discovery
> > interactions.
> > 
> > For many/most deployments, a fixed minimum tunnel MTU of
> > 1500 bytes would seem advisable.
> 
> In my understanding, we can keep the current IPv6 value of 
> 1280 as the minimum that has to traverse ALL tunnels, and 
> note that if a tunnel has an internal mechanism to fragment 
> at entrance and reassemble at exit (e.g. SEAL), the tunnel 
> advertised MTU can become independent from that of the 
> traversed infrastructure. 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Cheers,
> RD
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