+1

On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Tomoki Murai wrote:

> 
> +1
> I support 4rd as a WG item.
> 
> Tomoki
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> 
>> Le 21 mars 2011 à 22:29, IESG Secretary a écrit :
>> 
>>> A modified charter has been submitted for the Softwires (softwire)
>>> working group in the Internet Area of the IETF.  The IESG has not made any
>>> determination as yet.  The modified charter is provided below for
>>> informational purposes only.  
>> 
>>> Please send your comments to the IESG
>>> mailing list ([email protected]) by Tuesday, March 29, 2011.
>> 
>> The main comment of this mail is a suggestion to add 4rd to the charter, in 
>> view of the following:  
>> - It is a tunnel solution for IPv4 across IPv6 networks
>> - Implementations have already been made
>> - Some ISP's have expressed their preference for this stateless solution 
>> over a stateful solution (DS-lite)
>> - A proposed specification is available for WG comments 
>> 
>> It is distinct from other solutions in that:
>> - Unlike 6rd it is for IPv4 over IPv6
>> - Unlike DS-lite, it optimizes routing between CE's with point to multipoint 
>> tunnels and needs no CGN. 
>> - Unlike Mesh solutions, it doesn't need a (stateful) BGP between AFBR's 
>> (it's route selections are stateless).
>> 
>> Proposed additions to the charter text are in line.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> RD
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Softwires (softwire)
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> Current Status: Active Working Group
>>> 
>>> Chairs:
>>>  Alain Durand <[email protected]>
>>>  Yong Cui <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> Internet Area Directors:
>>>  Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
>>>  Jari Arkko <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> Internet Area Advisor:
>>>  Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> Mailing Lists:
>>>  General Discussion: [email protected]
>>>  To Subscribe:       [email protected]
>>>  Archive:           
>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/softwires/current/maillist.html
>>> 
>>> Description of Working Group:
>>> 
>>> The Softwires Working Group is specifying the standardization of
>>> discovery, control and encapsulation methods for connecting IPv4
>>> networks across IPv6 networks and IPv6 networks across IPv4 networks
>>> in a way that will encourage multiple, inter-operable
>>> implementations.
>>> 
>>> For various reasons, native IPv4 and/or IPv6 transport may not be
>>> available in all cases, and there is a need to tunnel IPv4 in IPv6
>>> or IPv6 in IPv4 to cross a part of the network which is not IPv4 or
>>> IPv6 capable. The Softwire Problem Statement, RFC 4925, identifies
>>> two distinct topological scenarios that the WG will provide
>>> solutions for: "Hubs and Spokes" and "Mesh." In the former case,
>>> hosts or "stub" networks are attached via individual,
>>> point-to-point, IPv4 over IPv6 or IPv6 over IPv4 softwires to a
>>> centralized Softwire Concentrator. In the latter case (Mesh),
>>> network islands of one Address Family (IPv4 or IPv6) are connected
>>> over a network of another Address Family via point to multi-point
>>> softwires among Address family Border Routers (AFBRs).
>>> 
>>> The WG will reuse existing technologies as much as possible and only
>>> when necessary, create additional protocol building blocks.
>>> 
>>> For generality, all base Softwires encapsulation mechanisms should
>>> support all combinations of IP versions over one other (IPv4 over
>>> IPv6, IPv6 over IPv4, IPv4 over IPv4, IPv6 over IPv6). IPv4 to IPv6
>>> translation mechanisms (NAT-PT), new addressing schemes, and block
>>> address assignments are out of scope. DHCP options developed in this
>>> working group will be reviewed jointly with the DHC WG.  RADIUS
>>> attributes developed in this working group will be reviewed jointly
>>> with the RADEXT WG.  The MIB Doctors directorate will be asked to
>>> review any MIB modules developed in the SOFTWIRE working group.  BGP
>>> and other routing and signaling protocols developed in this group
>>> will be reviewed jointly with the proper working groups and other
>>> workings that may take interest (e.g. IDR, L3VPN, PIM, LDP, SAAG,
>>> etc).
>>> 
>>> The specific work areas for this working group are:
>>> 
>>> 1. Developments for Mesh softwires topology; the Mesh topology work
>>>  will be reviewed in the l3vpn and idr WGs
>>>  - multicast
>>>  - MIB module
>>> 
>>> 2. Developments for 6rd:
>>>  - multicast
>>>  - operational specification
>>>  - RADIUS option for 6rd server
>>>  - MIB module
>>> 
>>> 3. Developments for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite):
>>>  - multicast
>>>  - operational specification
>>>  - RADIUS option for AFTR
>>>  - proxy extensions; GI-DS-Lite; DS-Lite with no NAT or NAT on the
>>>    B4 element
>>>  - MIB module
>>> 
>>> 4. Finalize discovery and configuration mechanisms for a gateway to
>>>  use DS-Lite or 6rd; these discovery and configuration mechanisms
>>>  must take into a account other operating environments such as
>>>  dual-stack and tunneling mechanisms not defined by the softwire
>>>  WG.  Development of new mechanisms will involve the dhc and/or
>>>  v6ops WGs as appropriate
>> 
>> 5. Development for 4rd (stateless tunneling for IPv4 over IPv6)
>> - architecture and protocol specification
>> - operational specification
>> - MIB module
>>> 
>>> Other work items would require WG approval and rechartering.
>>> 
>>> Goals and Milestones:
>>> Apr 2011 Submit DS-lite RADIUS option for Proposed Standard
>>> Apr 2011 Adopt DS-lite operational document as WG document   
>>> Jul 2011 Submit 6rd RADIUS option for Proposed Standard
>>> Jul 2011 Submit GI DS-lite for Proposed Standard
>>> Jul 2011 Adopt B4NAT as WG document
>> July 2011 Adopt the 4rd architecture an protocol document as WG document
>>> Aug 2011 Adopt 6rd operational document as WG document
>>> Aug 2011 Adopt Multicast extensions document as WG document
>>> Aug 2011 Submit DS-lite operational document for Informational
>>> Sep 2011 Submit B4NAT for Informational
>>> Nov 2011 Submit Multicast extensions document for Informational
>>> Nov 2011 Submit 6rd operational document for Informational
>>> Nov 2011 Adopt 6rd MIB module as WG document
>>> Nov 2011 Adopt DS-lite MIB module as WG document
>>> Nov 2011 Adopt Mesh topology MIB module as WG document
>> Nov 2011 Submit the 4rd architecture an protocol document for Proposed 
>> Standard
>> Nov 2011 Adopt the 4rd operational document as WG document
>> Nov 2011 Adopt the 4rd MIB module as WG document
>>> Nov 2012 Submit 6rd MIB module for Proposed Standard
>>> Nov 2012 Submit DS-lite MIB module for Proposed Standard
>>> Nov 2012 Submit Mesh topology MIB module for Proposed Standard
>> Nov 2012 Submit 4rd operational document for Informational
>> Nov 2012 Submit 4rd MIB module for Proposed Standard
>> 
>> 
>>> 
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