Thank you Tina, it is also pointed out by Dave yesterday.

Interestingly, Qiong pointed out another issue, which is routing scalability.
I agree with Qiong that routing scalability is significant issue.
FWIW, I would recommend something, LISP for example, could help him.

Best regards,
--satoru

On 2011/07/28, at 6:46, Tina TSOU wrote:

> Matsushima-san,
> In this draft, we may need to refer or define the definition of 
> - Stateful operation
> - Stateless operation
> - Dynamic port allocation
> - Static port allocation
> 
> Hope in this way, the discussion could be easier.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Tina TSOU
> http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Satoru Matsushima
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:56 AM
> To: Qiong
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Softwires] [softwire]comments on stateless 4v6 domain
> 
> Hi Qiong,
> 
> On 2011/07/28, at 4:31, Qiong wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Satoru,
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your suggestion and I understand it can work. But in my 
>> understanding, it still lies some differences with the so-called "totally 
>> stateless solution". 
> 
> I don't mean that 'totally stateless solution' isn't a part of routing 
> system. 
> 
>> Suppose there is only one domain, when an IPv4 downstream packet arrives at 
>> stateless gateway, it would firstly forward to the virtual tunnel interface 
>> (take 4V6 Mapped Tunnel for example) with only one default route. Then after 
>> encapsulated with a uniform IPv6 prefix and IPv4 prefix, etc, it will lookup 
>> IPv6 routing table and forward to 4v6 CE. Here, actually there is no need to 
>> do routing lookup for IPv4 address expect one default route.
> 
> You already did routing when you found default route.
> 
> 
>> However, if we introduce multiple domains with multiple IPv4 prefix pools ( 
>> the number of each domain is N1, N2, N3,... Nm) , then the entry number of 
>> IPv4 routing table will be N1+N2+N3+..+Nm. In current situation, Nm would 
>> not be a small number anymore. So maybe some more optimization work will 
>> still be needed to make it more "stateless" ?  
> 
> What do you mean 'the entry number of IPv4 routing table'? 
> Do you presume that your IGP routing has almost 300K routes as same number of 
> current internet full routes?
> 
> Best regards,
> --satoru
> 
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