Le 1 août 2011 à 18:49, Cameron Byrne a écrit :

> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Rémi Després <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Le 1 août 2011 à 16:36, Cameron Byrne a écrit :
>> 
>>> are you in fact proposing that 3GPP IPv4v6 bearers be _replaced_ by
>>> IPv6-only bearers with IPv4/IPv6 translation, or that both should coexist to
>>> widen the number of options?
>>> 
>> 
>> Both do exist today. I have had the latter in beta for over a year and it
>> will go to production soon.
>> 
>> Thank you for sharing this information.
>> I infer that the extra header size of 20 octets that 4V6 Translation has,
>> compared to the IPv4v6 Bearer, isn't considered a show stopper.
>> Hopefully, we won't hear too much of the header size argument in the future.
>> Regards,
>> RD
>> 
> 
> I don't think headers are the issue, yes, some bit twiddlers will
> disagree.  

Agreed.

> The challenge is getting the UE software implemented.  Take
> IPv6 for example.  Many operators have been asking for support for
> years, and now  Nokia is closing down Symbian.  With Symbian gone  as
> a platform for new phones (effective now in many operators), there
> will be ZERO IPv6 handsets available for GSM/UMTS that you can
> purchase.
> 
> I feel confident this will change, but i just want to share with you
> the fact that the UE ecosystem is a very complex balance of power
> between chipsets / Mobile OS / OEM / and service provider.  

Same understanding.

> New
> features are very hard to get committed, especially when NAT444 and
> NAT44 + IPv6 just work today in the mobile router segment.

Agreed.

As a matter of fact, adding 4rd to IPv6, in order to statelessly provide a few 
IPv5 incoming ports to customers, in addition to their outgoing ports of 
NAT444, might be a way to avoid the need for PCP.
(If you find this subject too controversial, it's fine with me to avoid opening 
it now, but if don't, why not).

Regards,
RD

> 
> Cameron


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