Le 2012-02-01 à 15:13, Mark Townsley a écrit :

> 
> While I appreciate the functional modularity in understanding the solution 
> space, I do wish that DT had come up with a way to make this one document to 
> present to the world rather than four. I fear organ rejection when tossing a 
> list of RFCs for one function to the CPE industry. 
> 
> In current form, each document has more or less than 10 pages of substantive 
> text, with considerable overlap between them (how many "framework" and 
> "architecture" sections do we really need for what are really just two 
> variants of something 95% the same?). As further evidence of the problem, 
> there are no less than 19 references to mdt-softwire-mapping-address-and-port 
> from draft-mdt-softwire-map-translation-00. One page has 5 references alone. 
> It's is like reading a single book with every other page in a different 
> binding. 
> 
> Could we not eliminate the overlap, and just boil this down to one less than 
> 40 page document? In fact, I bet if you tried you could get it down to half 
> that. Looks like Remi's new document is on the right track in this regard. 
> 
> I'm in favor of the chairs stating that we will adopt a WG document based on 
> the text in these documents, but I would like to see a stipulation that they 
> be combined into one (perhaps two but with only the DHCP option separate) and 
> the overlap eliminated among MAP, T and E eliminated. 

Well, this seems similar to taking the new 4rd document and analyzing what is 
missing or is unnecessary.

Except for the fact that double RF46145 is replaced by the self-contained 
Header mapping variant, more transparent, but about which there is an ongoing 
discussion with Maoke, the last 4rd-U draft is, in my understanding, largely 
what you are looking for.

It avoids all the complexity of GMA port-mapping, a nice piece of technology 
but near to 5 pages that don't seem to serve real needs (a fixed PSID is enough 
in practice AFAIK). 

Avoiding to review the unified draft because of some NIH syndrome would be IMHO 
a way to miss a good opportunity for progress.

I do look forward to technical comments on draft-despres-softwire-4rd-U.

RD



> 
> - Mark
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Ole Trøan wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> the MAP (Mapping of address and port) design team has now written and 
>> published the following sets of drafts.
>> 
>> the base document (port mapping algorithm):
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mdt-softwire-mapping-address-and-port-03
>> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-mdt-softwire-mapping-address-and-port-03.txt
>> 
>> the encapsulation document (MAP-E):
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mdt-softwire-map-encapsulation-00
>> 
>> the translation document (MAP-T):
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mdt-softwire-map-translation-00
>> 
>> the DHCP option (MAP-DHCP):
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mdt-softwire-map-dhcp-option-02
>> 
>> there is a MAP deployment document coming soon.
>> 
>> the solution described in this set of documents, are written to satisfy the 
>> following from the softwires charter:
>> 4. Developments for stateless legacy IPv4 carried over IPv6 
>>    - develop a solution motivation document to be published as an RFC 
>>    - develop a protocol specification response to the solution 
>>      motivation document; this work item will not be taken through 
>> 
>> in the design team's view, this set of documents are ready to be adopted as 
>> working group documents.
>> 
>> comments?
>> 
>> for the MAP design team,
>> Ole
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