Dear Yu,
I think the meaning of word 'stateless' should be clarified. To my knowledge, 
both the
draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-05 and draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02 
are
per-flow stateless, but per-subscriber stateful. They are not as stateless as 
MAP or
4rd-U. I don't think it's appropriate to take these two stateful solutions into 
account.

Best regards!



Yuchi Chen

From: Fuyu (Eleven)
Date: 2012-04-01 09:24
To: Sheng Jiang
CC: Softwires WG
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Have the WG drop other stateless solutions already?
Agree.
I think we shouldn't drop other stateless solutions as:

draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-05
draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02

They are all belong to stateless scope and with the same network architecture 
of IPv4 traffic across IPv6 access network as MAP and 4rd-U.

Cheers 
Yu


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Sheng Jiang
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:04 PM
To: Softwires WG
Subject: [Softwires] Have the WG drop other stateless solutions already?

Hi, Softwirers,

I get very confused when I walked out the Softwire meeting this morning. Why 
did we only talk about making choice between 4rd-U and MAP? There are also 
several other stateless solutions, too. As far as I recalled, the Softwire WG 
have NOT decided to drop them at all. They should be discussed together and 
equally.

If the Softwire WG is going to choose single one solution, it should be choose 
among all these solutions. Until we have decided drop all other stateless 
solutions, this is not a two-horse race, yet.

Best regards,

Sheng
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