Hi,

MAP-T has been tested in CERNET2 and we have tested applications such as
http, telnet, ssh,ftp, icmp echo request/reply, qq, skype, msn,  video (for
example: youku.com, xunlei.com, etc)  without any problem.

Congxiao

2012/4/6 Lee, Yiu <[email protected]>

> I also followed the discussion. I appreciate both teams bought up the
> technical details for both designs. To be honest, I fail to see which one
> is better than other (yet). I like the fact that 4rd-u can do what MAP-T
> does w/o introducing any encap overhead. But I understand the concerns
> others brought up in the ML such as V-octet. For MAP-T, I like it not
> introducing any new requirement to the IPv6 header, but I need more
> published data to determine whether the double-translation would cause any
> transparent issue or not. For example: I would very appreciate if somebody
> who trial MAP can publish data such as what applications they have tested,
> what pass and what fail.
>
> This piece of work is very important because once we select it, this
> technology will stay for long time. I do not want to rush to make a
> decision and come back to regret in future.
>
>
> On 4/6/12 6:00 AM, "Liubing (Leo)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >+1
> >
> >I've read the endless discussion, and found that is seems the MAP also
> >has not fully convinced the ISP operation guys.
> >Since there's explicit controversy, why not just publish them both as
> >experimental. why we must chose one as a "standard track"? Being a
> >standard track can eliminate operators' misgiving?
> >
> >If the technology is really appropriate, I don't think the "experimental"
> >status would be a issue for the operators to adopt. Just let the operator
> >decide by themselves.
> >
> >I remembered in the meeting venue, Joel Halpern who chairs Karp and lisp
> >WG, suggested we publish both of them as experimental, and that was
> >exactly how they handle the similar situation in their WG. I think his
> >suggestion is reasonable to be considered. (To Joel: Pardon me if I
> >improperly quoted your comment, or I just misunderstood your suggestion
> >).
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> Behalf Of Simon Perreault
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:16 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Softwires] Path to move forward with 4rdŠ 4rd-U as
> >>transparent
> >> as MAP-E
> >>
> >> On 2012-04-03 05:40, Ole Trøan wrote:
> >> > 1) MAP-E supports independence of IPv4 and IPv6 addressing. by using
> >>hub
> >> and spoke mode with a separate
> >> >     mapping rule per subscriber. in this mode e.g only ports could be
> >> embedded in the address. this is not
> >> >     possible in a translation solution like 4rd-U.
> >>
> >> This mode of operation was suggested last week during the SD-NAT
> >> presentation. There seemed to be consensus among operators that it was
> >> not practically feasible.
> >>
> >> > 2) a node inside the network will treat translated packets different
> >>from
> >> encapsulated ones.
> >> >     e.g. for the purposes of counting or for applying features. for an
> >> encapsulated packet both the complete
> >> >     IPv4 datagram and the IPv6 header is available, and different
> >>features
> >> can be applied to both.
> >>
> >> In practice, the contents of encapsulated packets are rarely inspected
> >> by firewalls and other such devices.
> >>
> >>
> >> IMHO at this point we should let the market decide. Publish both as
> >> experimental. Let's work on something else now.
> >>
> >> Simon
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