Hi, Alain,

2012-04-10 14:18, Alain Durand:

> Remi, Woj:
> 
> We have heard a number of times that you both think the "other" solution is 
> broken.

> Technical points have been made,

Exchanging real technical points with Maoke isn't finished (he just posted a 
new draft about 4rd-U).
Since this has been productive so far (despite some heat from time to time), 
clarifying the last points which we understand differently is useful (IMHO).

> no need for personal attacks.

I don't recognize myself in this one (at least as the initiator).

> I'm getting concerned that the working group is losing sight of the very 
> reason why we participate to the IETF; to promote good standards, not to 
> fight endlessly about which of the two or three solutions we have on the 
> table (and that are 99% identical) is more "pure". Standardizing is about 
> finding common ground, not about ego,

> fighting for whose name is on the draft, character assassination, using 
> disparaging language,

Neither in this one.

> threatening appeals,

Feeling concerned with this one.
However, exercising an appeal if found appropriate is each one's prerogative, 
and can sometimes be a duty.
Sincerely hope to have no need for that.
 

> boycotting,

Feeling concerned with this one too.
However, the fact is that, personally, I cannot answer YES and cannot answer NO 
either:
- Now convinced that either MAP-T+E or 4rd-U on standard track is premature, I 
can't answer YES.
- Also convinced that both on standard track would be a mistake, I can't vote 
NO.  

> or ballot stuffing.

The proportion of this is well beyond what I thought was predictable.


Please be sure that all these efforts of mine are for the best of 
standardization.

Regards,
RD



> 
> Alain, wg-co-chair.

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