I also believe the additional progress and the expert review on the draft will 
make thing better than today. Everyone got the chance to develop himself. So 
pls. keep to work on what you love. I meant the result of the last poll (73=2) 
have you continue your own story. Right?


Best Regards,
Leaf Yeh

Advanced Research, Network Product Line, Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Phone: +86-755-28978851,  Mobile: +86-13600451075,  
Postal Address: F4-3A, Huawei, Bantian, Longgang District,Shenzhen 518129, 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Joel M. Halpern
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:42 AM
To: Antonio M. Moreiras
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Sorry for being a noise generator, inflating the 
results. Re: Result from the consensus call on Map vs 4rd-U and official way 
forward

If I may, it seems to me that several of these replies miss some 
important points in the message from the chairs.

1) It became clear during the WG poll that the documents were not 
complete.  This is not a bad thing.  We need to finish them.
2) The poll did indicate that there is interest in the documents.
3) Given that the documents are not complete, they can not be sent to 
the IESG at this time.  Until they are complete, a final decision on 
what status they will be labelled with can not be made.

Hence, what can be done is either to adopt the documents as WG 
documents, or not.  Even if the chairs were to state an intended status 
for the documents upon completion, that would have to be verified when 
the final content was available.

The most important thing actually is the call for reviewers.  If you 
want to see any of the documents adopted by the working group, and 
worked on, we need folks to step forward as reviewers.  Folks who are 
not the authors.

Yours,
Joel M. Halpern
An observer without a preference on outcomes.

PS: I think there is also some confusion about IETF processes.  However, 
I will not belabor the list with a rant on that.  I will happily answer 
off-list questions if it i helpful to individuals.
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