Remi - Would you agree, though, that if a solution is confirmed to cover design 
goals of both Encapsulation and Translation, it would better meet the WG 
objective objective to have a single standard?  (Operators would be relieved 
from having to make a choice.)



That sounds great if the solution (eg. 4rd-U) is confirmedly feasible and 
extensively accepted by the group. Right?





Best Regards,

Leaf





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From: Rémi Després [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 20:55
To: Leaf yeh
Cc: Jacni Qin; Ole Trøan; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Result from the consensus call on Map vs 4rd-U and 
official way forward


Le 2012-05-04 à 12:08, Leaf yeh a écrit :

Jacni - Anyway, if generally we have a single target or design goal,…

There are many design goals here. What Ole said in this email is the solution 
of Encapsulation & Translation will meet the different ones, which sounds 
mutually exclusive. Will you go for the further clarification or discussion on 
it here?

I would be open to accept these 2 solutions, which share part of the same 
address format. And let the operator get the right to pick one he believe it is 
feasible & suitable, or even not pick any of these solution.

Would you agree, though, that if a solution is confirmed to cover design goals 
of both Encapsulation and Translation, it would better meet the WG objective 
objective to have a single standard?
(Operators would be relieved from having to make a choice.)

Regards,
RD



Best Regards,
Leaf



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jacni Qin
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 10:03 AM
To: Ole Trøan
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Result from the consensus call on Map vs 4rd-U and 
official way forward

Ole,

On 5/3/2012 Thursday 4:38 PM, Ole Trøan wrote:

Jacni,



My concern is MAP isn't a single solution. Operators still need to make a 
choice between E and T because they are not compatible.



would it alleviate your concerns if the documents had MUSTs for both? i.e. 
increasing the probability that an implementation supported both, and making 
this purely into an operational choice?



I'd rather prefer you pick one only.



wouldn't we all. I think you're flogging a dead horse. let us accept that the 
requirements for translation and the requirements for encapsulation are 
mutually exclusive.

We put the requirements on the table and some discussions, but sorry, I can't 
remember what exactly the consensus/conclusion is, and I'm confused about where 
we are.

I see, maybe I'm wrong, the technical requirements are drawn more from the two 
incompatible solutions after, but not from the conversion/analysis of the 
statements in "motivation", then we got the mutually exclusive ones you 
mentioned above. How can we figure out the way to move forward? Just by some 
MUSTs/MAYs ...

Anyway, if generally we have a single target or design goal, IMHO, it's really 
a bad idea to keep parallel two, no matter we call them requirements/solutions, 
whatever.


Cheers,
Jacni




cheers,

Ole







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