Hi Behcet,

Please see inline. 

Cheers,
Med 

>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Envoyé : vendredi 27 juillet 2012 18:48
>À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
>Cc : softwire issue tracker; 
>[email protected]; [email protected]
>Objet : Re: [softwire] #10: Nothing in common with DS-Lite
>
>Hi Med,
>
>My comments below. Please do not take them personal. No offense.
>Please, please.
>
>On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I really don't understand this issue.
>> It is even misplaced to have this comment at this stage, 
>since this is a document which has been adopted by the WG and 
>the solution it specifies is the same as the one reviewed by 
>the WG prior to its adoption (i.e., since April 2011).
>>
>> Anyway, below a tentative to explain the overall rationale:
>>
>> DS-Lite model can not be reduced to a CGN/AFTR + tunnel. 
>DS-Lite should be first seen as an IP connectivity service. 
>This service can be defined as follows:
>>
>> * delivery of IPv4 connectivity over an IPv6-capable network.
>> * delivery of native IPv6 connectivity
>> * DS-Lite serviced customers are assigned with IPv6 prefix 
>and no IPv4 address.
>>
>> The unicast portion of the service is defined in RFC6333 and 
>is implemented using a tunnel + CGN.
>>
>> The multicast portion of the service is defined in 
>draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast. This portion of the 
>service can be defined as follows:
>>
>> * delivery of IPv4 multicast content using native IPv6 
>multicast capabilities
>> * delivery of native IPv6 multicast content
>>
>> The solution proposed in 
>draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast is designed to allow 
>DS-Lite serviced customers be delivered IPv4 multicast services.
>>
>
>These are religious arguments.
>Translation multicast integrates well with several IPv6 transition
>technologies. MAP-T is one. NAT64 is another, 4rd also. But not MAP-E.
>Let's use translation multicast with those technologies.
>
>No matter what you want to believe, DS-Lite is a tunneling technology.
>Why do you think DS-Lite was standardized in Softwires WG? Same thing
>with 6rd.
>Remember softwire means tunnel.
>Translation has only been added to Softwires WG recently after Behave
>WG stopped working on it.

Med: I failed to get the point you are trying to make. Do you want 
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast to cover the translation case also?
Let me remind that draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast covers only the 
encapsulation scheme: IPv4 multicast packets are encapsulated in IPv6 ones.

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