Zhen,

you perhaps may be missing out on the last 1+ years of discussions in this
WG regarding the role/purpose of NAT464 technology and all relevant
architectures, including the softwire Beijing interim with map-t use-cases,
the WG adoption vote/status, discussion on xlat464, as well as 4rd-u
(although the need for this technology variant remains questionable).
While we can re-hash many of those, in the interest of moving forward it
would be helpful if you revisited the archives to find the answers.

Regards,
W. Dec


On 8 September 2012 17:03, Zhen Cao <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Roberta,
>
> For most operators, I haven't heard the issues existed. If those use
> cases are just designed for this solution, this does not convince
> anybody including me, and we do not need to discuss a scenario which
> is to justify a solution.
>
> What's your unique network architecture compared with others, can you
> show us your concrete network architecture? What's your deployment
> plan for MAP-T and where?
>
> Thanks
> Zhen
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Maglione Roberta
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello Gang,
> >     I do see some difference between MAP-E and MAP-T regarding the
> application of ACL.
> > Let's consider the following scenarios:
> > - when a destination is outside of the MAP domain in case of MAP-E the
> CE uses as IPv6 destination the IPv6 address of the MAP BR while for MAP-T
> it uses the IPv4 address of the destination mapped in IPv6 by using the MAP
> IPv6 rule. If I need to apply an ACL that matches a destination outside of
> the map domain I can only do that by using MAP-T;
> > - another example is how to apply an ACL that matches UDP or TCP packets
> on the BNG. My understanding is that this cannot be achieved with MAP-E, as
> the IPv4 packet is encapsulated in IPv6.
> >
> > These are just a couple of examples about ACL, there are use cases with
> operational implications, that can be simply addressed by MAP-T.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Best regards,
> > Roberta
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of GangChen
> > Sent: venerdì 7 settembre 2012 8.05
> > To: softwires
> > Subject: [Softwires] Is ACL really a point to drive MAP-T solution?
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > As I identified, there is no issue to apply ACL either on fix networks
> > or mobile networks. Why most operators don't have issue, why there is
> > the issue for special operator. What is the issue?
> >
> > MAP-T and MAP-E have same address format. And, we have a good decision
> > to standard the MAP-E solution.
> >
> > Even ACL is needed, MAP-E is sufficient. There is no need to create
> > another flavor
> >
> > Considering above, MAP-T is superfluous.
> > I don't think we need spend much energy on that.
> > If there is something I missed, please kindly identify it before
> > submitting the MAP-T document.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Gang
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