2013/2/5 <[email protected]>

> Hi Maoke,
>
> Thanks for your response. Comments inline.
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
> From: Maoke <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:54
> To: Suresh Krishnan <[email protected]>
> Cc: Softwires WG <[email protected]>, Yong Cui <[email protected]>,
> Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Softwires] Call for adoption of
> draft-bfmk-softwire-unified-cpe-02
>
>
> hi Suresh and all,
>
> personally i think this work is still premature for the WG adoption.
> reasons are below:
>
> 1. current draft makes a logic for the CPE to decide its mode according to
> what information it received from DHCP options. however, DHCP options are
> not the only available provision mean. what if my CPE get MAP information
> through DHCP, while lw4over6 information from PCP, while another MAP
> domain's provision through manually configuration? when such kind of basic
> questions not yet fully discussed, i doubt it is suitable to adopt this
> work at so early stage.
>
> [ian] The intention for the draft is to describe using the presence (or
> absence) of configuration parameters so that a CPE can work out which mode
> to configure. The DHCP section is there to show how this would work if you
> were using DHCP as the config mechanism, but it doesn't
>
>
[maoke] the draft states "e.g." for the DHCP configuration firstly but
later the total discussion is based on only DHCP. i doubt this can be a
good direction for the further approach.


> 2. some important issues are not yet comprehensively discussed, or almost
> missing, in the current draft. e.g. (but not limited to),
>     - what is the correct NAPT source port overlapping behaviour for the
> unified CPE?
>     - what is the correct fragment/reassemble behaviour for the unified
> CPE?
>
> [ian] I agree that these are problems that need to be addressed across
> both MAP and LW, but both of these problems need solutions that are aligned
> at both ends of the softwire, not just the CPE.
>

[maoke] NAPT issue is totally CPE issue. i don't agree it is a problem for
the *both* ends. fragmentation issue involves both sides, but CPE behaviour
impacting the anycast BR/AFTR performance is a well-known issue in the
community. even BR/AFTR has any change, the CPE must contain a work on this
issue.


> [ian] For the fragmentation question, Ole proposed this as being a
> suitable task to tackle as it is common to all solutions. I would propose
> that this is how it is tackled, and then any affected drafts are updated
> based on the outcome.
>
> as currently there is no MAP members joins this draft, i am worrying that
> the draft has fully reflected the concern from the MAP side.
>
>
> [ian] As there haven't been any comments on the draft for some time from
> anyone involved in the WG, I'm hoping that this means that everyone is
> happy with the content!
>

[maoke] happy with the content at current stage = acknowledge to the
authors' effort != happy with the content at the level of WG adoption. ;-)
for the time being...

- maoke


>
> thanks and regards,
> maoke
>
> 2013/2/5 Suresh Krishnan <[email protected]>
>
>> Hi all,
>>   This draft was a result of the discussion initiated at the softwire
>> meeting in Atlanta to attempt to come up with a unified CPE
>> specification that can work with both MAP and lw4o6. This call is being
>> initiated to determine whether there is WG consensus towards adoption of
>> draft-bfmk-softwire-unified-cpe-02 as a softwire WG draft. Please state
>> whether or not you're in favor of the adoption by replying to this
>> email. If you are not in favor, please also state your objections in
>> your response. This adoption call will complete on 2013-02-18.
>>
>> Regards
>> Suresh & Yong
>>
>>
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