Hi Woj,

The text in Qi's proposal is explicit about what is meant by complete 
independence between IPv4 and IPv6 addressing: "the IPv6 prefix does not embed 
an IPv4 address and/or port set)". The text is about IPv6 prefix assigned to 
the CPE; that prefix does not embed an IPv4 address nor a port set.

This is a trivial point IMHO.

Cheers,
Med

De : Softwires [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Wojciech Dec
Envoyé : mercredi 12 mars 2014 10:26
À : Qi Sun
Cc : Softwires-wg WG
Objet : Re: [Softwires] Proposed text that describes lw4o6 and map-e

Hi Qi,
thanks, but I'd rather stick with the text that we proposed and (lengthily) 
discussed at the meeting, i.e.:
"Lightweight 4over6 provides a solution for a hub-and-spoke softwire 
architecture only, where the lwAFTR maintains (softwire) state for each 
subscriber. [I-D.ietf-softwire-map] offers
a means for reducing the amount of such state by using algorithmic IPv4 to IPv6 
address mappings to create aggregate rules. This also gives the option of 
direct meshed IPv4 connectivity between subscribers."
Note: Your text is different to the above,  and claims "complete independence" 
which is not accurate in view of the fact that lw46 DOES embed the IPv4 address 
in the IPv6 address. In terms of embedding stuff in the "prefix part" (i.e. the 
top /64), both solutions allow "complete prefix independence", so that's a null 
point.
Regards,
Wojciech.


On 12 March 2014 08:51, Qi Sun 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi all,

According to the discussion last Friday, there should be some text describing 
the characteristics of lw4o6 and map-e with cross-referece, and the text should 
be the same (or almost the same).

The two points that are requested to be in the text:
* MAP-E achieves aggregated rules
* MAP-E does mesh

Here is the proposal:

In lw4o6 draft, section of Introduction:
Lightweight 4over6 provides a solution with complete independence of IPv4
and IPv6 addressing (i.e., the IPv6 prefix does not embed an IPv4 address
and/or port set). This is accomplished by maintaining state for each
softwire (per-subscriber state) in the lwAFTR and using a hub-and-spoke
architecture whereby all traffic traverse the lwAFTR. [I-D.ietf-softwire-
map] offers a means for reducing the amount of such state by using
algorithmic IPv4 to IPv6 address mappings to create aggregate rules. This
also gives the option of direct, meshed IPv4 connectivity between
subscribers.

In MAP-E draft, section of Introduction:
MAP-E offers a means for reducing the amount state held in the BR by
using algorithmic IPv4 to IPv6 address mappings to create aggregate rules.
This also gives the option of direct, meshed IPv4 connectivity between
subscribers. Lightweight 4over6 [I-D.ietf-softwire-lw4over6] provides a
solution with complete independence of IPv4 and IPv6 addressing
(i.e., the IPv6 prefix does not embed an IPv4 address and/or port set). This is
accomplished by maintaining state for each softwire (per-subscriber state)
in the lwAFTR and using a hub-and-spoke architecture whereby all traffic
traverse the lwAFTR.

The above text has been agreed by the lw4over6 co-authors.
@Woj, could you please see if the the proposal resolves your concern? Thanks!


Best Regards,
Qi


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