Instead of multiple releases, how about one minimal release, and a
"package" system?
An installer will be needed for this - could be as simple as a java
program reading an XML file with package names and URLs, or as
advanced as a full OSGI implementation as in Eclipse, or JSR277.
A side-effect of this is that we could use the same installer
mechonism to distribute 3rd party components, analyzers, dictionaries
and more. After all, an enterprise search platform is complex enough
to call for this at some point in time.. And version dependency
control comes for free as well :)
--
Jan Høydahl
Gründer & senior architect
Cominvent AS, Stabekk, Norway
www.cominvent.com
On 15. juni. 2009, at 17.12, patrick o'leary wrote:
Those examples and features should still exist but in a batteries
included
version
The lite version is just for those who want the simple basic search
feature.
More than 70% of solr these days is indexing strategy or client
libraries,
rather than search.
These are important, but are now beginning to clutter things up for
deployment.
It would be good to offer a lite version for those that are just
upgrading,
and a simple target
to build a lite-example for those hacking away on the code or
distributing a
example version.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Ian Holsman <[email protected]>
wrote:
Is bandwidth or disk space really an issue for people today ?
you should be focusing on decreasing the size and speed of indexing
stuff
not the code-base. It's not like you guys have unlimited time to
spend on
this project.
ps. if you don't have the examples in there, then people won't know
that
feature exists.
and yes. i regularly copy the example schema to create a new index.
I know
it's bad practice, and not the most efficient schema, but it
usually has the
cool features enabled in it ;-)
Noble Paul ??????? ?????? wrote:
+1 for solr lite
A lot of users are fine without those example stuff (dih , cell)
one option is to have two different distributions. solr.zip and a
solr-min.zip
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Runo<[email protected]>
wrote:
I'd be willing to guess that the vast majority of users start off
with
the
example app and customize from there to meet their needs.
Thanks for your time!
Matthew Runo
Software Engineer, Zappos.com
[email protected] - 702-943-7833
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Eric Pugh wrote:
Has anyone really complained about the size of Solr? One of the
things
I
like about Solr is how simple it is to get things up and
running, and
how
accesible the example directory makes everything. When I first
played
with
DIH and Cell, everything was there. I didn't have to chase
down .jar's
from
multiple places. Maybe if it was as simple as "ant build-
example-cell"
and
"ant build-example-dih" then there might not be a barrier to
entry for
new
users.
I'd be curious to hear what percentage of folks deploy solr
based on the
example app, and how many just start out with the most stripped
down
solr.war and build everything up from there?
Eric
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
+1
Should be easy enough to conjure up the Ant magic.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
Thanks for bringing this up Patrick... clearly it would be
nice to
avoid (or mandate) 100MB downloads!
-Yonik
http://www.lucidimagination.com
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:50 PM, patrick o'leary <[email protected]
>
wrote:
Just using the apache-solr example directory, it seems to
have gotten
a
bit
big
e.g.
$ du -sh *
13M apache-solr-1.3.0
92M apache-solr-1.4.0
The biggest space user being example-DIH
apache-solr-1.4.0/example
$ du -sh *
4.0K README.txt
5.5M clustering
80K etc
*32M example-DIH*
42K exampleAnalysis
168K exampledocs
13M lib
52K logs
118K multicore
*31M solr*
20K start.jar
12M webapps
12K work
solr/lib is now 30mb
apache-solr-1.4.0/example/solr/lib
$ ls -lhS
total 30M
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 14M Jun 10 17:08 ooxml-schemas-1.0.jar
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 4.3M Jun 10 17:08 icu4j-3.8.jar
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 3.2M Jun 10 17:08 pdfbox-0.7.3.jar
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 2.6M Jun 10 17:08 xmlbeans-2.3.0.jar
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.5M Jun 10 17:08 poi-3.5-beta5.jar
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.2M Jun 10 17:08 xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar
-rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.1M Jun 10 17:08 bcprov-jdk14-132.jar
as opposed to 0 for 1.3.0
This pushes solr to over a 100mb download for features that
I'm sure
can be
packaged up separately as they look seldom used.
It would make sense if there's going to be a batteries included
version
to
also have a solr-lite version.
P
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