Hi - Again, hiring a simple VM at a third location without a Solr cloud sounds 
like the simplest solution. It keeps the quorum tight and sound. This simple 
solution is the one i would try first.

Or am i completely missing something and sound like an idiot? Could be, of 
course.

Regards,
Markus

 
 
-----Original message-----
> From:Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>
> Sent: Thursday 25th May 2017 0:15
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Spread SolrCloud across two locations
> 
> Sure, ZK does by design not support a two-node/two-location setup. But still, 
> users may want/need to deploy that,
> and my question was if there are smart ways to make such a setup as little 
> painful as possible in case of failure.
> 
> Take the example of DC1: 3xZK and DC2: 2xZK again. And then DC1 goes BOOM.
> Without an active action DC2 would be read-only
> What if then the Ops personnel in DC2 could, with a single script/command, 
> instruct DC2 to resume “master” role:
> - Add a 3rd DC2 ZK to the two existing, reconfigure and let them sync up.
> - Rolling restart of Solr nodes with new ZK_HOST string
> Of course, they would also then need to make sure that DC1 does not boot up 
> again before compatible change has been done there too.
> 
> --
> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> 
> > 23. mai 2017 kl. 18.56 skrev Shawn Heisey <elyog...@elyograg.org>:
> > 
> > On 5/23/2017 10:12 AM, Susheel Kumar wrote:
> >> Hi Jan, FYI - Since last year, I have been running a Solr 6.0 cluster in 
> >> one of lower env with 6 shards/replica in dc1 & 6 shard/replica in dc2 
> >> (each shard replicated cross data center) with 3 ZK in dc1 and 2 ZK in 
> >> dc2. (I didn't have the availability of 3rd data center for ZK so went 
> >> with only 2 data center with above configuration) and so far no issues. 
> >> Its been running fine, indexing, replicating data, serving queries etc. So 
> >> in my test, setting up single cluster across two zones/data center works 
> >> without any issue when there is no or very minimal latency (in my case 
> >> around 30ms one way
> > 
> > With that setup, if dc2 goes down, you're all good, but if dc1 goes down, 
> > you're not.
> > 
> > There aren't enough ZK servers in dc2 to maintain quorum when dc1 is 
> > unreachable, and SolrCloud is going to go read-only.  Queries would most 
> > likely work, but you would not be able to change the indexes at all.
> > 
> > ZooKeeper with N total servers requires int((N/2)+1) servers to be 
> > operational to maintain quorum.  This means that with five total servers, 
> > three must be operational and able to talk to each other, or ZK cannot 
> > guarantee that there is no split-brain, so quorum is lost.
> > 
> > ZK in two data centers will never be fully fault-tolerant. There is no 
> > combination of servers that will work properly.  You must have three data 
> > centers for a geographically fault-tolerant cluster.  Solr would be 
> > optional in the third data center.  ZK must be installed in all three.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Shawn
> > 
> 
> 

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