While on the topic of renaming roles, I'd like to propose finding a better term than "overseer" which has historical slavery connotations as well. Director, perhaps?
John Gallagher On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:48 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 to rename master/slave, and +1 to choosing terminology distinct > from what's used for SolrCloud. I could be happy with several of the > proposed options. Since a good few have been proposed though, maybe > an eventual vote thread is the most organized way to aggregate the > opinions here. > > I'm less positive about the prospect of changing the name of our > primary git branch. Most projects that contributors might come from, > most tutorials out there to learn git, most tools built on top of git > - the majority are going to assume "master" as the main branch. I > appreciate the change that Github is trying to effect in changing the > default for new projects, but it'll be a long time before that > competes with the huge bulk of projects, documentation, etc. out there > using "master". Our contributors are smart and I'm sure they'd figure > it out if we used "main" or something else instead, but having a > non-standard git setup would be one more "papercut" in understanding > how to contribute to a project that already makes that harder than it > should. > > Jason > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:33 AM Demian Katz <demian.k...@villanova.edu> > wrote: > > > > Regarding people having a problem with the word "master" -- GitHub is > changing the default branch name away from "master," even in isolation from > a "slave" pairing... so the terminology seems to be falling out of favor in > all contexts. See: > > > > > https://www.cnet.com/news/microsofts-github-is-removing-coding-terms-like-master-and-slave/ > > > > I'm not here to start a debate about the semantics of that, just to > provide evidence that in some communities, the term "master" is causing > concern all by itself. If we're going to make the change anyway, it might > be best to get it over with and pick the most appropriate terminology we > can agree upon, rather than trying to minimize the amount of change. It's > going to be backward breaking anyway, so we might as well do it all now > rather than risk having to go through two separate breaking changes at > different points in time. > > > > - Demian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Noble Paul <noble.p...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:51 AM > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr > > > > Looking at the code I see a 692 occurrences of the word "slave". > > Mostly variable names and ref guide docs. > > > > The word "slave" is present in the responses as well. Any change in the > request param/response payload is backward incompatible. > > > > I have no objection to changing the names in ref guide and other > internal variables. Going ahead with backward incompatible changes is > painful. If somebody has the appetite to take it up, it's OK > > > > If we must change, master/follower can be a good enough option. > > > > master (noun): A man in charge of an organization or group. > > master(adj) : having or showing very great skill or proficiency. > > master(verb): acquire complete knowledge or skill in (a subject, > technique, or art). > > master (verb): gain control of; overcome. > > > > I hope nobody has a problem with the term "master" > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:19 PM Ilan Ginzburg <ilans...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Would master/follower work? > > > > > > Half the rename work while still getting rid of the slavery > connotation... > > > > > > > > > On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 07:13, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Shawn Heisey <apa...@elyograg.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It has been interesting watching this discussion play out on > > > > > multiple > > > > open source mailing lists. On other projects, I have seen a VERY > > > > high level of resistance to these changes, which I find disturbing > > > > and surprising. > > > > > > > > Yes, it is nice to see everyone just pitch in and do it on this list. > > > > > > > > wunder > > > > Walter Underwood > > > > wun...@wunderwood.org > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fobs > > > > erver.wunderwood.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdemian.katz%40villanova.e > > > > du%7C1eef0604700a442deb7e08d8134b97fb%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cf > > > > a366%7C0%7C0%7C637280562684672329&sdata=0GyK5Tlq0PGsWxl%2FirJOVN > > > > VaFCELlEChdxuLJ5RxdQs%3D&reserved=0 (my blog) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Noble Paul >
