Very well put. I've made this stand myself on several occasions. :> As with anything else in networking, there are times and places for just about everything. It's a question of analyzing the needs and coming out with the right solution for *that* particular situation.
John -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Gindulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SonicWALL]- Be Careful Mmmmmm, On some points I agree with Mr. McDermott, however I have to ask how he is defining "reliable" in the previous post. My venerable, and oft maligned...usually by me, Soho50 is about as reliable as brick. Short of a direct lightening strike or high intensity E.M.P. in the same room I am having difficulty imagining anything that would fail on my unit. Physical reliability on this appliance is BEYOND excellent and superior to what almost any pc pressed into duty as a Linux firewall could muster. The SOHO has no fans to fail, no hard drives or floppy drives to conk out, no keyboard or mouse interface to suddenly become DRT. As for the reliability of it's security it lacks some of the configurability, okay a LOT of the configurability, of a pc tasked to firewall duties but it's raw abilities are much the same. I've seen one perhaps two exploits against the SOHO but www.security-basics.com delivers plenty of examples of exploits against the various Linux Distro's all the time. Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not anti-Linux by any means as I run several RH servers here at work...I'm just pointing out that "reliability" is a very generalized statement and that someone should carefully examine their security needs before deciding to go with an appliance or with a tasked pc. Clifford Gindulis, BSEE, MCSE, CCNA, CCA I.T. Manager NTS Transportation www.ntstrans.com 307-237-2588 "Forget world peace, visualize using your TURN SIGNALS!" Confidentiality Note: This e-mail message and any attachments to it are intended only for the named recipients and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not one of the intended recipients, please do not duplicate or forward this e-mail message and immediately delete it from your computer. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SonicWALL]- Be Careful People shouldn't get in over their heads, end of story. If you have the knowledge to be able to correctly setup and configure a software Linux firewall, it will be infinitely more reliable and configurable than any appliance I've used. Plus, a test firewall should be in a test environment, not in production. Aside from a couple web server IPs, I haven't seen anything on this or the other SW list that would prove to be dangerous to the owners. *shrug* Cavell McDermott Domino Admin APW Ltd. - Texas Campus 214-343-1400 - Main 214-355-2022 - Direct 214-341-9950 - Fax http://www.apw.com "Tony Su" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> om> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [SonicWALL]- Be Careful sonicwall-owner @peake.com 01/28/2002 05:34 PM Please respond to sonicwall Amen. A Linux fanatic used to work for my company, promised a firewall which did everything we wanted for next to nothing in no time at all (sound familiar?<G>). A month and a half later after a series of "not yet?!" discussions he finally had it up. Within days the elementary Intrusion Detection I setup on our primary server was reporting stealth attacks... Anyway, after watching their activities for a few days, I shut down the firewall. Always felt that our Linux guy found he was into a project he couldn't do alone, but his sources for help were unethical people who couldn't resist including a backdoor. Tony Su -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of TJ Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:30 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [SonicWALL]- Be Careful Just a thought. You all might want to be careful about broadcasting your firewall configurations. All someone has to do is use that info, your name, email reply domain and you are slammed. If i was a hacker i would surf these groups of people who don't know how to set up their firewalls correctly, gather info and become your worst nightmare. It would make the list obsolete if we couldn't discuss things, but try to keep it general. Maybe do some offline specific stuff with those peeps you trust. Just some food for thought!!!! Hope you were hungry. 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