My main point of comparing it with the reliability of my SW Pro-VX.
Granted, these past 2 months or so have been relatively problem free, but
previously we had problem after problem with it. A power cycle would be
required every couple of days or so, then when a tech suggested we d/l the
new firmware it wiped out our configuration and we had to start out from
scratch. The next call I made to tech support 2 days later I found out
that Sonicwall knew the firmware was corrupt, yet they still had it
available for download on their web site for almost a week longer.. But it
does seem that they've been working most of the bugs out with the latest
firmware releases.
Then on the other hand, we used to have an older redhat box running
squid and ipchains, that had close to a year and a half of uptime. But
unfortunately when the person in charge of it left, my (now ex) boss
replaced the fw with something more "user friendly". And to make matters
worse, we'll be losing our t-1 and moving to corp. mandated frame relay
*sigh*
But I agree with you whole heartedly, different needs require different
devices. For home, and small to medium sized offices that want "turn it on
and go" type protection, these seem to work fairly well. If you want
something that can do more, then a more advanced solution is needed. Who
knows, maybe I ended up just getting a problem box.. Another of our sites
uses a Pro-VX as well, and has had problems but not near as many as we've
experienced.
Cavell McDermott
Domino Admin
APW Ltd. - Texas Campus
214-343-1400 - Main
214-355-2022 - Direct
214-341-9950 - Fax
http://www.apw.com
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Mmmmmm,
On some points I agree with Mr. McDermott, however I have to ask
how he is
defining "reliable" in the previous post. My venerable, and oft
maligned...usually by me, Soho50 is about as reliable as brick. Short of a
direct lightening strike or high intensity E.M.P. in the same room I am
having difficulty imagining anything that would fail on my unit.
Physical reliability on this appliance is BEYOND excellent and
superior to
what almost any pc pressed into duty as a Linux firewall could muster. The
SOHO has no fans to fail, no hard drives or floppy drives to conk out, no
keyboard or mouse interface to suddenly become DRT.
As for the reliability of it's security it lacks some of the
configurability, okay a LOT of the configurability, of a pc tasked to
firewall duties but it's raw abilities are much the same. I've seen one
perhaps two exploits against the SOHO but www.security-basics.com delivers
plenty of examples of exploits against the various Linux Distro's all the
time.
Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not anti-Linux by any means as I run
several RH servers here at work...I'm just pointing out that "reliability"
is a very generalized statement and that someone should carefully examine
their security needs before deciding to go with an appliance or with a
tasked pc.
Clifford Gindulis, BSEE, MCSE, CCNA, CCA
I.T. Manager
NTS Transportation
www.ntstrans.com
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People shouldn't get in over their heads, end of story. If you have the
knowledge to be able to correctly setup and configure a software Linux
firewall, it will be infinitely more reliable and configurable than any
appliance I've used. Plus, a test firewall should be in a test
environment, not in production.
Aside from a couple web server IPs, I haven't seen anything on this or
the other SW list that would prove to be dangerous to the owners. *shrug*
Cavell McDermott
Domino Admin
APW Ltd. - Texas Campus
214-343-1400 - Main
214-355-2022 - Direct
214-341-9950 - Fax
http://www.apw.com
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01/28/2002
05:34 PM
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Amen.
A Linux fanatic used to work for my company, promised a firewall which
did everything we wanted for next to nothing in no time at all (sound
familiar?<G>). A month and a half later after a series of "not yet?!"
discussions he finally had it up. Within days the elementary Intrusion
Detection I setup on our primary server was reporting stealth attacks...
Anyway, after watching their activities for a few days, I shut down the
firewall.
Always felt that our Linux guy found he was into a project he couldn't
do alone, but his sources for help were unethical people who couldn't
resist including a backdoor.
Tony Su
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:30 AM
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Just a thought.
You all might want to be careful about broadcasting your firewall
configurations. All someone has to do is use that info, your name,
email reply domain and you are slammed. If i was a hacker i would surf
these groups of people who don't know how to set up their firewalls
correctly, gather info and become your worst nightmare.
It would make the list obsolete if we couldn't discuss things, but try
to keep it general. Maybe do some offline specific stuff with those
peeps you trust.
Just some food for thought!!!! Hope you were hungry.
TJ
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