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Subject: HEALTH: Straight talk with Stop TB Director Mario Raviglione
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HEALTH: Straight talk with Stop TB Director Mario Raviglione

LILLE, 31 October 2011 (PLUSNEWS) - With global health funding on the
decline, officials are concerned that strains of tuberculosis (TB),
including multi-drug resistant tuberculosis (MDR-TB), may go
untreated. Stop TB Director Mario Raviglione spoke to IRIN/PlusNews at
the International Lung Health Conference in Lille, France, about the
threat of drug resistant TB treatment and the precarious TB funding
gap.

 Question: The HIV and TB communities have been bemoaning the lack of
service integration for years - why can't they get together?

 Answer: "It's a turf issue. If I am dealing with an issue, then I
tend to focus on my issue. If someone comes and disturbs me with some
additional work then I would be reluctant. I think it's a human
reaction.

 "We need to educate people in public health that if you have a person
that has TB in the African context, it is likely that this person will
be affected by HIV. It makes no sense to have this person come in the
morning to a clinic to collect their TB drugs and then tell them to go
in the afternoon to another clinic to collect their HIV drugs."

 Q: Directly Observed Treatment Short course (DOTS) has been slammed
by some as ineffective and paternalistic - is the World Health
Organization (WHO) planning to move away from DOTS?

 A: "I'm aware that some people say that it is not right, it's a
paternalistic approach... someone actually called it a 'veterinarian
approach' to public health, meaning not that patients are animals but
that the TB community wants to treat them as if they were and
supervise every single thing they do. It makes some sense when you
look at it from that perspective.

 "Nevertheless, DOTS is an approach that where it worked, has
prevented the onset of drug resistance and cured patients. Where it
hasn't worked, like in some parts of South Africa, it has allowed
incredible epidemics of MDR-TB and even MDR-TB among people living
with HIV. [MDR-TB is resistant to one or both of the strongest anti-TB
drugs.]

 "Our position is not going to change, we will recommend constantly
that patients be counselled, supervised in a positive way, reminded on
a daily basis and supported throughout the course of this treatment.

 "I would be the first one to say, 'I'm educated enough that I don't
have to be reminded every day - it's humiliating for me.' But there
are others who are not in a lucky position like that and they tend to
lose their treatment because simply they are not counselled enough,
not supported enough.

 "One has to weigh the ideology and the principles against the
practicality of things."

 Q: What's the biggest issue in TB at present?

 A: "Second-line drugs are rare today in the sense that the production
of quality drugs is limited to very few WHO prequalified companies...
and some are difficult to produce.

 "The market is not enough for the industry... to produce the amount
of drugs that would be needed if we were able to detect and diagnose
all the MDR-TB cases.

 "At the moment, there is a vicious circle because in order to have a
better market for second-line drugs, we need a higher volume of
patients, which is simply not there because most countries do not do
systematic drug susceptibility testing. About 90 percent of the MDR-TB
cases we think exist are not detected by the system so the market is
limited to about 30,000 cases per year that are officially notified.

 "By the time we have laboratories capable of diagnosing everyone with
MDR-TB, then we will encounter a real problem because there will not
be enough drugs to treat these patients, which will become a big, huge
ethical issue. I really hope these two things go together, the
development of systems to diagnose cases so that the volume of cases
detected increases and it becomes more attractive for the industry to
produce the drugs."

 Q: A study from Botswana recently showed problematic adherence to
isoniazid preventative TB therapy (IPT), which uses one of the two
main drugs used to treat TB to prevent active disease. Some have
linked this to the drug resistant TB burden in the country - how
should we be interpreting this study?

 A: "The number-one message I take away from the Botswana study is
that it's a challenge to implement large-scale preventative therapy
for TB.

 "Mathematical models show clearly that if you implement preventative
therapy, we will probably be about 7 percent effective in preventing
TB. The problem is the feasibility.

 "I'm not that concerned, to be honest, with the issue of developing
resistance [within IPT provision] because people who are infected with
TB and don't have the active disease - there's such a small amount of
bacteria in their body that it is quite unlikely that one of them is a
mutated [strain] that is resistant from the start to isoniazid, so
that I'm not wasting my drug or stimulating resistance.

 "However [IPT] will change depending on setting. It's clear that if
you have basic resistance to isoniazid in the population and that
resistance is already 10-15 percent, then your prophylaxis in 10-15
percent of the cases won't work.

 "If I were in the former Soviet Union, where isoniazid resistance is
30 percent, then there is no way on earth that we'd use a prophylaxis
with isoniazid because in one-third of patients it won't work. This is
why, in some settings, it might be good to use a combination of
drugs."

 Q: What is the future of TB funding?

 A: "Funding for TB has gone up quite substantially in the last decade
but there is still a gap. In the middle-income countries - Brazil,
Russia, India, China and South Africa - 95 percent of TB funding is
domestic. On the other hand, if you look at the poorest countries,
particularly in Africa, you will find that most rely on international
financing for more than 50 percent [of their TB programmes].

 "With the decrease in international aid as a consequence of the
financial crises... we are in a very fragile situation. The
achievements we have witnessed over the past decade are at big risk in
the next five years if international financing [and] domestic
financing are not consolidated and maintained. If not, we will go back
15 years because TB is like that - it is not a disease that will go
away in one or two years, it requires constant investment.

 "It's an illusion that we're now controlling TB."

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