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(30th April, 2013) - Will rebels finally lay down their guns? Or will
they fight on?

Answers are being sought to these questions since President Salva Kiir
renewed amnesty to six forces fighting against the government of South
Sudan last Thursday.

The leaders of the forces include Gordon Kong, David Yau Yau, Oyuok
Ogot, Bapiny Monytuil Wicjang, Johnson Uliny and Munto Abdalla Munto.

Read: Kiir pardons six militia groups

Radio Miraya spoke to the army spokesman, Col Philip Aguer Panyang, on
how the militias received the amnesty.

Read: Rebels surrender in Unity’s Mayom

Col Philip Aguer: We visited Mayom County with a delegation headed by
the Unity State deputy governor. We had a meeting with former South
Sudan Liberation army (SSLA) fighters who just came from Khartoum and
crossed the border to South Sudan. This is a significant development
and the amnesty that was issued by the President of South Sudan and
Commander-in-Chief of the army, is a consistent policy of the
government to leave the doors open for reconciliation, because peace
is the most precious thing in regards to the development of human
beings. These brothers that [have just] arrived are an indication that
South Sudanese are capable of reconciling, forgiving themselves and
coming together as brothers.

Radio Miraya: How many so far have handed over themselves to the SPLA
(South Sudan army), and from which rebel groups?

Col Philip Aguer: We have not got the exact number because they have
families. They have children among themselves. But the preliminary
number of men – the fighting capacity – is about 900. But that was not
the final parade. They still have their chairman who is still away.
When he comes, I think that is the time we will get the exact number
and parade. They were coming with about 100 vehicles, which have about
50 mounted with heavy machine guns and mortars and bombers. And this
is a big number. In terms of equipment they are carrying, this is the
biggest joining of forces that have been fighting the SPLA; the
biggest after 2007 when Gen Paulino Matip came with a big number.

Radio Miraya: The juniors are coming. Where are their seniors?

Col Philip Aguer: Their seniors are here. We met with Gen Karlo Kuol
and Gen Matthew Okur Jang and they have most of their generals with
them – more than seven. The only person who is left out is Bapiny
Monytuil, who is their chairman. I hope he will join soon. It is only
a matter of time. He will soon be in South Sudan, hopefully.

Radio Miraya: Now Unity State has seen people coming in and
reconciling with their sons who joined the rebellion that time. What
about Pibor, where a number of people lost their lives, and where
attention, internationaly, is focused? Do you think David Yau Yau will
accept this amnesty?

Col Philip Aguer: I believe it is a matter of time because we have
seen how many groups that have been fighting the SPLA during the war
and after the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (in 2005),
have been coming. The process of dialogue and reconciliation is a
continuous process.  And I think fighting a state is not a simple
thing. This is why we believe that whoever is still away will join the
process as long as the government of South Sudan has the open-door
policy for reconciliation. We fought for liberation, prosperity and
justice, and development cannot be achieved without having this peace.

Radio Miraya: In case Yau Yau refuses, what will you do?

Col Philip Aguer: If he chooses fighting as he had been fighting the
army, the army will continue fighting him back!

Radio Miraya: What will happen to these forces coming to South Sudan;
will they be reintegrated into the civil life or into the army?

Col Philip Aguer: Our secret of success is that we have been
implementing agreements. What was been signed in the CPA is that those
who had been fighting the army in the past will be given the chance to
join the army. If they are soldiers and they want to continue with
their military carrier, if they are trained they will be integrated
into the army. If they are civilians and they want to join the army,
they will be allowed to go for training. So, that process is just
continuous and systematic.

Radio Miraya: What will happen to the arms in their hands? Are they
going to be disarmed for a certain moment?

Col Philip Aguer: Well, they still have their arms. Since they came
for peace, we met with them and we were in the middle of their
equipment. They are just South Sudanese and there is no tension. The
issue of weapons is not a big issue. I believe in the near future some
of these weapons will be taken to the war museum and as long as we are
establishing peace at the borders with Sudan, these weapons will have
meaning in future. This is a loss for the people of northern Sudan
that have been investing a lot of money for buying tools of killing,
tools of destruction, and I think they will see that it will be better
to divert this money to development and peace. So these weapons will
be taken to where they can either be stored or used if need be.

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