Cliff and Martin,
I am afraid that gypsum block, like all other "small volume sensors" 'see'
only the water molecules in their immediate vicinity (max a few mm) and from
that point on, like all others media, it's a function of HC.
True that TDR and neutron moderation see soil volumes a few orders of
magnitude.

The criticism against GB regards mainly their non-linear relationships,
weatherability, and huge difference between single units.
arie

Arie Nadler
Dept. of Soil Physics
Institute of Soil, Water, and the Environment
A.R.O., Volcani Center, Min. of Agriculture
POB 6 Bet Dagan, Israel, 50250
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From: "Martin Hodnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Gypsum blocks


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> Cliff,
> I agree about the problem of the small volume in which
> measurements are made with many modern sensors. These
> are usually of the capacitance type, with small pins,
> or the electrodes within a tube. The latter only
> measure in a narrow annulus around the tube, which as
> you rightly say, is likely to be disturbed, almost
> however carefully the installation is done.
>
> The sampling volume of the sensor raises the question
> of "representative elemental volume", or REV - how big
> a volume should be sampled to be "representative" of
> the soil. Clearly the larger the better - with the
> neutron probe in the lead here.
>
> However, there are modern TDR type sensors, with long
> rods, which are spaced a few cm apart, which do appear
> to have a larger sampling volume. 300 mm rods, 5 cm
> apart would have a sampling volume of about 0.6 litres
> (assuming a cylindrical field between the rods).
> Perhaps 0.4 l if the em field is more of a flattened
> cylindrical shape. There is another TDR type sensor
> which is a flexible strip, 3m long, which can be
> buried in the plough layer. This must surpass the
> neutron probe in volume sampled, but cannot be readily
> installed at greater depths.
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin Hodnett
>
>
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