On 05/11/2011 04:05 AM, duncan.in...@virginmoney.com wrote:
Sorry, I did realise part of this was OT for the devel list - AFTER I'd
pressed send.

Would AMQP get a look in for Spacewalk regardless of the ultimate future
direction of Red Hat? OSAD is still the most unreliable part of
Spacewalk/Satellite in my experience.

I think I already answered, but, no. The osad/jabberd will "not be changed in Spacewalk and will continue to use osad / jabberd for the near term future".

We have no plans to make this change within Spacewalk. I would be happy to have someone contribute this ability to Spacewalk though.

Regards,
Cliff



Will speak to our account rep about the other stuff.

Finally, is there going to be an open source project for System Engine?
Somewhere to discuss direction, development etc? Or will it be Red Hat
internal only?

Cheers

Duncan



From: Cliff Perry <cpe...@redhat.com>
To: spacewalk-devel@redhat.com
Cc: duncan.in...@virginmoney.com
Date: 10/05/2011 21:18
Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Func vs osad vs AMQP
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On 05/10/2011 03:59 AM, duncan.in...@virginmoney.com wrote:
 > Um, wow!
 >
 > That's certainly big news. Is work on Spacewalk going to tail off then?

Red Hat is committed to continue to sponsor Spacewalk. Red Hat will
continue to be actively involved in Spacewalk, contributing code
upstream, as RHN Satellite today continues to be Red Hat's primary
systems management solution for managing the life cycle of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux for traditional data centers. Over time our
contributions though will go down as we approach the End of Life for
Satellite 5.x for our customers.

 > I can understand the direction and can see why Red Hat would be going
 > towards the cloud. There are still going to be a large number of
 > companies for whom Satellite is more than adequate. Will Satellite be

The Satellite product question is best answered from your Red Hat
account rep in private. I'm more than willing to share the presentation
we made last week at the Summit (which is public information now) and
give a commitment that we are not abandoning the Spacewalk project, but
acknowledging that our long term strategy for this code base has
changed. I'm pleased to say we have a strong community of users as well
as growing list of enhacement & bugfix contributors.

Regards,
Cliff

 > offered in parallel?
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Duncan
 >
 >
 >
 > From: Cliff Perry <cpe...@redhat.com>
 > To: spacewalk-devel@redhat.com
 > Cc: duncan.in...@virginmoney.com
 > Date: 09/05/2011 17:02
 > Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Func vs osad vs AMQP
 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >
 >
 >
 > On 05/09/2011 11:35 AM, duncan.in...@virginmoney.com wrote:
 > > Guys,
 > >
 > > Just a quick question about the func v osad debate. Is there any work
 > > going on regarding replacing osad with func? I recall it being tossed
 > > around a while ago, but hadn't heard anything recently. Or perhaps
AMQP?
 > > Would be a shame to keep using osad; it's the single flakiest part of
 > > Satellite in my experience.
 > >
 > > Cheers
 > >
 > > Duncan
 >
 > >
 > > _______________________________________________
 > > Spacewalk-devel mailing list
 > > Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com
 > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
 >
 > AMQP will be used in the future replacement of Satellite (called System
 > Engine). See Summit roadmap presentation:
 >
 >
http://www.redhat.com/summit/2011/presentations/summit/whats_next/thursday/summit-2011.warner_sanders_t_1400_future_of_satellite-v5.pdf
 >
 > This though will likely not be changed in Spacewalk and will continue to
 > use osad / jabberd for the near term future.
 >
 > Regards,
 > Cliff
 >
 >


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