I am a bit lost.  Here is my basic local.cf file:

required_hits           5
skip_rbl_checks         0
use_bayes               1
bayes_file_mode         0700
bayes_path              /var/spool/bayes/bayes

Am I missing anything here.  I want to try bayes and I am still feeding sa-learn spam 
and ham.  My /var/spool/bayes/ directory is
being updated each night when I run sa-learn and sa-learn --dump outputs lots of fun 
stuff which make me believe that it's working
correctly.

My spamassassin --lint -D output seems to be looking in /Users/admin/.spamassassin for 
pref files although I am not running SA as
this user (I am running it as the mta user that my mail server uses).

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> David B Funk
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:59 PM
> To: Pete Henshall
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Pete Henshall wrote:
>
> > Hi dan, list,
> >
> > > I think it's simply a function of load. The first system gets the bulk of
> > the mail thoughput.  You can see that the > erratic loads
> > > tail off over the weekend.  It's wierd.  I have tried disabling RBL, bayes
> > and even removing all my third party
> > > rules.  No dice.
> >
> > If it is still leaving spamds lying around with bayes disabled then I don't
> > know.... I have just set bayes_learn_to_journal 0 (thanks David Funk) and my
> > problem seems to have stopped.... maybe.
>
> I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, if you are using Bayes with
> auto_learn (auto_learn 1), then you most likely -do- want
> bayes_learn_to_journal set to 1. (enabled).
>
> If you use auto_learn and disable journaling, then each spamd tries to
> update the Bayes database with each new message (thus increasing the
> probablilty of lock contention problems).
>
> If you enable journaling then each spamd just appends to the end of the
> journal file (no locking needed for a simple text append). Then the
> database will perocially get rebuilt and incorporated in the database.
> So only that occasional rebuild needs to lock the database.
>
> >
> > As far as I am concerned spamd should NEVER have rouge spamd's coming off it
> > that don't have a matching spamc.  (is that right??)
>
> I'm not so sure about this. If you have bayes_learn_to_journal enabled
> then a spamd child will need to be run when ever the journal file gets
> "full" (size > bayes_journal_max_size) or it's been around for more
> than one day. Also, unless you've explicitly disabled it, a db expire
> is done daily (which would be another spamd child).
>
> So unless you disable all automatic Bayes maintanence operations
> (learn, expire, etc), then there will be the possibility of spamd
> children and potential lock contention.
>
> Dave
>
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